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Nanoose
10-17-2009, 01:52 PM
Perhaps someone here saw the show of the man who murdered 7 in the late 80's in California. He confessed, was found guilty and sentenced to death.

I don't understand why he is still alive. There must be some reason...can anyone enlighten me? Thx.

Phillip Allen
10-17-2009, 02:16 PM
the reason is the hand-wringing Californians who lack the courage of their "convictions"

Nanoose
10-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Phillip - does Cali still have the death penalty, i.e. is he still alive because the law has since changed, meaning they no longer execute criminals? (I thought they still did executions)?

I'm confused...

Phillip Allen
10-17-2009, 02:19 PM
I have no idea...

Phillip Allen
10-17-2009, 02:21 PM
I have a thought toward solving the death sentance foolishness...on a federal level, any death sentence not carried out within some agreed upon time frame (one year for instance) is automaticly commuted to life with the state picking up cost of subsequent legal representation for the convicted party

Michael s/v Sannyasin
10-17-2009, 03:09 PM
I believe that California outlawed the death penalty at one point, then re-enacted it later. Most notably, Charles Manson had his death sentence commuted to life in prison because of that.

Nanoose
10-17-2009, 03:14 PM
His name is Ramon Salcido.
Evidently he is on death row.
I just don't get how one can be on death row for 20 years...
....(especially in this economy....er, especially in California's current economy)....

Milo Christensen
10-17-2009, 03:27 PM
We should kill people quicker to save money?

Nanoose
10-17-2009, 03:31 PM
Well, carry out his sentence swiftly, or over 20 years later. You choose.
I just don't get why he's still alive 20 years out.

Glen Longino
10-17-2009, 03:46 PM
Well, carry out his sentence swiftly, or over 20 years later. You choose.
I just don't get why he's still alive 20 years out.

He's been praying for a longer life, and God's listening?

Cuyahoga Chuck
10-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Death penalty convicts in the US are given a lot of opportunity to appeal their cases. The peculiarities of their cases and the branch of the US Court of Appeals determines how long the case can plug along.
We have a case in Cleveland that invovled three senseless murders committed by a neo-Nazi in the late 1970's that looks like it could be overturned for lack of adequate representtion.
Go figure.