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Katherine
10-12-2009, 08:32 PM
and no one hears it, a man is still wrong. lol:p

Yesterday I and a friend went hiking through some parts of our property that I hadn't been over in a few weeks. We rounded the trail into one of the few open areas on the property and found the path blocked by a large tree that had over. I was rather surprised because it is a large tree, nobody heard it go, and it wasn't like that a few weeks ago. It looks like a recent bought of high winds took it out. Maybe Paul can start cutting some planking now. Or at least keep me warm at night.:D

LeeG
10-12-2009, 08:43 PM
now?

BrianW
10-12-2009, 08:51 PM
Any John Deere green paint on the tree?

S B
10-12-2009, 10:01 PM
and no one hears it, a man is still wrong. lol:p

Yesterday I and a friend went hiking through some parts of our property that I hadn't been over in a few weeks. We rounded the trail into one of the few open areas on the property and found the path blocked by a large tree that had over. I was rather surprised because it is a large tree, nobody heard it go, and it wasn't like that a few weeks ago. It looks like a recent bought of high winds took it out. Maybe Paul can start cutting some planking now. Or at least keep me warm at night.:D
This doesn't sound good, waiting for a tree to fall to be warm at night:D.

TimH
10-12-2009, 11:13 PM
There was a wind storm in case you missed it.

http://woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103192&highlight=big+storm

WX
10-13-2009, 05:14 AM
If a man says something and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 05:26 AM
In the night in the middle of a hurricane, you hear the big ones go over - the big ones shake the ground. And you.It depends... I've slept through the past couple of hurricanes that came north through Alabama.:D

I did however, not sleep through Opal in 1995.

You tend to hear the big pines when they come down, cause they come down really quick, as if chainsawed. And they have no substantial limbs to break their fall. The really big live oaks that come down kinda ease themselves over pretty slowly and quietly - the ones we've lost have been due to the ground being so saturated with water from the hurricane that it loses its ability to hold the tree's root system down. They come down root system and all. Not unusual to get 10 - 20 inches of rain in the few hours preceding the eye of a hurricane. I can't recall ever seeing a cypress come down - they do have substantial root systems and not much windage up top, comparatively speaking. Honestly I think the biggest danger with regards to trees is that hurricanes often break the tops out of the pines- which then come down like javelins.

I'm sure the guys like JTA, Mickey, High-C, and Margo have other exepriences and fears, mainly high water fears I suspect. We don't worry too much about flooding once you get more than 20-30 miles inland and away from a river that runs into the gulf.

botebum
10-13-2009, 05:54 AM
I know it wasn't intended but this seems like a good game. We'll take Katherine's thread title and give it our own ending.
If a tree falls in the woods ... Paul must be widening the driveway so he has someplace to push snow in Hell.:D

Doug

bamamick
10-13-2009, 06:58 AM
It really is quite amazing how often older trees do just fall on their own. Where we live in the swamp we have built a boardwalk from my side of the creek to my brother in law's side, a space of 50-60 yards? Since we built that thing about five years ago we have had several old cypress trees just fall across it. Usually I just cut a space to walk through and leave the trunks. There's one I need to get to right now but haven't had the time or inclination.

Living in an all-wood house beneath 100 foot tall pines, this is maybe not a pleasant subject?

Mickey Lake

TimH
10-13-2009, 09:32 AM
Living in an all-wood house beneath 100 foot tall pines, this is maybe not a pleasant subject?



I have the same situation except they are 100 foot+ firs. They make the house look tiny. And we DO get some real big wind storms. A while back one of the smaller ones started to fall and gently leaned up against another one.

J P
10-13-2009, 10:19 AM
It really is quite amazing how often older trees do just fall on their own. [snip] Living in an all-wood house beneath 100 foot tall pines, this is maybe not a pleasant subject?

Mickey Lake


!#@^%$ ... mumble *@$$%! grumble ...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/picsonline/AS-03.jpg

Did you hear something?

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Damn... is that an old Airstream? Were you able to repair it?

J P
10-13-2009, 10:36 AM
Damn... is that an old Airstream? Were you able to repair it?

Yes. No. Happened a couple (maybe three?) years ago. Still have the thing but have decided it's too much of a project for me. Need some aluminum?

What kind of tree dropped on your property?

TimmS
10-13-2009, 10:42 AM
If a man says something and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?

I like that! :D

Mrleft8
10-13-2009, 10:42 AM
What kind of tree dropped on your property? I'm guessing not a Coconut Palm.....

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 10:53 AM
One of the bigger black locust on the property, probably 26-28 inch diameter. Its still alive having come out some soft ground on hillside. Its not that big a deal (it didn't hit anything and its not blocking the drive), its one of over a hundred relatively large trees on the ground on our property. The former owner, didn't practice any silviculture on this property for close to twenty years as far as I can tell. There's lots of trees hung in neighboring trees, down deep in the valley theres a few trees overloaded with mature vines. That kinda crap. There's a lot to do here, but we're having fun with it. You have to be careful not let 'it' (the repairs to the house and the hopes/plans for the grounds) get to ya, cause if you let it can seem prettty damn overwhelming. I figure we'll be completely done with the house by next summer. And have a good handle on the property by then as well.

It really is a beautiful place here in the woods.

I'm really enjoying the change of the season right now. Pretty nice day today its clear and about 47-48 degrees. Yeah... yeah... I know winter's coming. But, I've never lived where's there been a real autumn before. Back in Alabama we kinda go straight from summer to a two week period of changing weather and then a damp winter for a couple of months. Its kinda spectactular here right now, lots and lots of color. Again back in Alabama, the pines stay green and the live, water, and valley oaks just turn brown and lose their leaves over several months.

oznabrag
10-13-2009, 11:02 AM
Paul, it sounds to me as if you could use a WoodMizer. Locust lumber is hard to come by, you know!

Besides, it could be a pretty steady part-time moneymaker. :)

pefjr
10-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Sad (http://gizmodo.com/tag/sad/)
iPod Survives Falling Tree Accident, Is Not to Blame for Owner's Death (http://gizmodo.com/5331828/ipod-survives-falling-tree-accident-is-not-to-blame-for-owners-death)






http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/08/thumb160x_8a00ba6d35f7257536076a2560c12421.jpgA Philadelphia jogger was killed yesterday by a falling tree (http://gizmodo.com/tag/falling-tree/) when she failed to hear the warning signs of the impending crash over the music from her iPod. But let's not be hasty and blame the iPod.
What's especially chilling, and damning if you're the type to blame the inanimate gadget, is that the iPod was still playing music when the woman was discovered. It's an awful accident, but one we should take as a warning: Listening to music while jogging is essential (at least for someone who hates jogging as much as I do), but noise-cancelling or blocking headphones are a bad idea, since they eliminate ambient noises like traffic and, well, falling trees. And as much as that hot new Beyonce song sounds great when cranked super loud, volume moderation is probably warranted. Run safe, people. Run safe. [Philadelphia Inquirer (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20090806_Jogger_killed_by_falling_branch_in_Fairmo unt_Park.html)


Clear all trees near your house.

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Paul, it sounds to me as if you could use a WoodMizer. Locust lumber is hard to come by, you know!

I've been trying to figure out how to get to that point.:D

Some of our trees are large and have long straight defect free sections, kinda seems a watse to use them for firewood. In reality, their greatest value to me is the beauty and privacy and quiet that they afford while still alive and standing tall.

TimH
10-13-2009, 11:54 AM
How many acres of Hell do you have Paul?

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 12:02 PM
About 11 acres.

If you click on this link, and zoom in onece or twice, we are on Patterson Lake Road about a mile west of Hell, our house is directly across from Beaver lake. As a matter of fact the stream that feeds Beaver Lake runs across our property. We are completely surrounded by the 11,000 acre Pinckney Recreation Area.

link (http://www.michigan.org/maps/default.aspx?proxy=G4665&name=Pinckney+Recreation+Area&dAddress=8555+Silver+Hill+Road&dCity=Pinckney&dState=MI&dCountry=US&dZip=48169&command=p)

Popeye
10-13-2009, 12:20 PM
poor mister katherine

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
10-13-2009, 12:23 PM
What have you done to the landscape? - it's covered in lakes.

Like Lewis to the South and West of Stornoway
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=isle+of+lewis+scotland&ie=UTF8&start=0&hq=&hnear=Isle+Of+Lewis,+United+Kingdom&ll=58.175591,-6.536179&spn=0.108624,0.385895&t=h&z=12

TimH
10-13-2009, 12:28 PM
What have you done to the landscape? - it's covered in lakes.



They dont call it the great lakes state for no reason :)

bamamick
10-13-2009, 12:30 PM
So, Hell is somewhere between Ann Arbor and South Bend? I thought so.

Mickey Lake

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 12:40 PM
rofl

TimH
10-13-2009, 12:41 PM
I used to think Hell was near Gary Indiana. Guess I was wrong :)

oznabrag
10-13-2009, 01:06 PM
I've been trying to figure out how to get to that point.:D

Some of our trees are large and have long straight defect free sections, kinda seems a watse to use them for firewood. In reality, their greatest value to me is the beauty and privacy and quiet that they afford while still alive and standing tall.

I'm sure you'll figure out the highest and best use for your timber, but if there's no-one in your area with a WoodMizer, it could be just the ticket for getting the inside track on the best lumber in your area. A lot of folks are willing to have their lumber sawn 'on shares'.

Also, I'm pretty sure that WoodMizer still maintains a database of the locations and owners of all it's machines, and this can be an invaluable tool for locating one close by that has fallen into disuse.

Stay warm, man! :D

pefjr
10-13-2009, 03:03 PM
About 11 acres.

If you click on this link, and zoom in onece or twice, we are on Patterson Lake Road about a mile west of Hell, our house is directly across from Beaver lake. As a matter of fact the stream that feeds Beaver Lake runs across our property. We are completely surrounded by the 11,000 acre Pinckney Recreation Area.

link (http://www.michigan.org/maps/default.aspx?proxy=G4665&name=Pinckney+Recreation+Area&dAddress=8555+Silver+Hill+Road&dCity=Pinckney&dState=MI&dCountry=US&dZip=48169&command=p)Plug in the lat/long on google earth and you can fly home.

Rich VanValkenburg
10-13-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm sure you'll figure out the highest and best use for your timber, but if there's no-one in your area with a WoodMizer, it could be just the ticket for getting the inside track on the best lumber in your area. A lot of folks are willing to have their lumber sawn 'on shares'.

Also, I'm pretty sure that WoodMizer still maintains a database of the locations and owners of all it's machines, and this can be an invaluable tool for locating one close by that has fallen into disuse.

Paul, there was a guy with a Woodmizer about 12 miles east of you near M14 and N Territorial. He had a green white oak that he timbered out for Sonja's new keel. John Haling of Whitmore Lake I even have a phone number if you want it. PM me.
And here he is with my new keel
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/falcon5a/Roughkeel3.jpg

Mrleft8
10-13-2009, 04:05 PM
So................ Is that Black Locust on a particular half acre?....:D

Ethan
10-14-2009, 03:52 AM
Any John Deere green paint on the tree?

ROTFLMAO.....Exactly the direction I was headed when I hit the reply button!

skuthorp
10-14-2009, 05:25 AM
We have a few dead trees on the block, they'll be full of termites too. When we move in I'll have to make some decisions re safety but our biggest mwenace there is live trees dropping branches on hot days. Last summer we heard one crash down on every day we were there. Bit scary but a good reason to go sailing instead.

Syed
10-14-2009, 09:09 AM
About 11 acres.

If you click on this link, and zoom in onece or twice, we are on Patterson Lake Road about a mile west of Hell, our house is directly across from Beaver lake. As a matter of fact the stream that feeds Beaver Lake runs across our property. We are completely surrounded by the 11,000 acre Pinckney Recreation Area.

link (http://www.michigan.org/maps/default.aspx?proxy=G4665&name=Pinckney+Recreation+Area&dAddress=8555+Silver+Hill+Road&dCity=Pinckney&dState=MI&dCountry=US&dZip=48169&command=p)

Testing navigational skills :)

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/WestofPattersonroad.jpg

Paul Pless
10-14-2009, 09:22 AM
Testing navigational skills :)

We're about 3200 feet further west than the center of your screen shot Syed. I wish I knew how to capture such photos. If you find it our house is completely isolated in the heavy woods, just west of a clumb of what used hunting and vacation cabins. The sat photo is split and our house is in the 'winter shot' portion of the frame.

Syed
10-14-2009, 09:30 AM
Ctrl+Alt+S saves the Google Earth image on the computer. It's fun to see all those distant places so conveniently.
I would love to visit your place if you can send me your address or coordinates (PM).

Canoez
10-14-2009, 09:44 AM
Well, now. I thought you wanted wood for Christmas? ;)

Apparently, everyday is Christmas in Hell. :D

(It certainly seems that way when I go shopping - isn't even Halloween yet and there are already Christmas decorations in the stores! :eek:)

Syed
10-14-2009, 12:10 PM
It should be close;

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/Paulonbing.jpg

Paul Pless
10-14-2009, 12:58 PM
It should be close;

Pretty Close.:)

Our property is the heavily forrested 1/3 of the photo to the extreme left in the photo. Our house is about 50 yards further south than where the word Bing appears. Basically you got our front yard. You can just see through the trees the old old stable building in the valley.

Syed
10-16-2009, 09:50 AM
Paul, your building seems to be well camouflaged, as a wild guess it is somewhere around that tiny red dot.
Any wild life around there?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/Paul2.jpg

Mrleft8
10-16-2009, 12:59 PM
Paul, your building seems to be well camouflaged, as a wild guess it is somewhere around that tiny red dot.
Any wild life around there?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/Paul2.jpg

If you look to the right of the red dot, you'll see a dilapidated old shed... If you look just up from that you'll see a little patch of brighter green...... That'll be the tractor.....:D

Paul Pless
10-16-2009, 01:28 PM
Yeah that's one shed near the red dot. There's another bar sever inches to the right.

Our house doesn't appear on this photo, it would be about two to three inches under the word bing towards your keyboard.

btw, this looks like an early spring photo. The trees that you see with no leaves are mostly mature black locusts, the other greener ones are a variety of oaks and poplars mostly.

Syed
10-16-2009, 08:50 PM
If you look to the right of the red dot, you'll see a dilapidated old shed... If you look just up from that you'll see a little patch of brighter green...... That'll be the tractor.....:D

Yep.... it is without a battery.:)

tomlarkin
10-17-2009, 12:26 AM
If you want to play with Bing maps, here's the link to the area Syed took the image of: http://tinyurl.com/yzo52pt

http://donutboat.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/image_thumb.png
I see some nice equipment, but no tractors :-(

Mrleft8
10-17-2009, 08:16 AM
If you want to play with Bing maps, here's the link to the area Syed took the image of: http://tinyurl.com/yzo52pt

http://donutboat.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/image_thumb.png
I see some nice equipment, but no tractors :-(

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! That's the illegal still operation!....Paul didn't feel like it was "home" without one....;) :D

Paul Pless
10-17-2009, 08:19 AM
Looks haunted, do you folks have ghosts?No... demons, and imps, and devils, and tortured souls, and such . . .

Location: Hell
Tom, that's not our place.

That's a little to the west of us. I think that might be our nighbors that sell firewood.

Syed
10-17-2009, 09:10 AM
Another 'bing thing'

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/Paul3.jpg

Syed
10-17-2009, 09:37 AM
If you want to play with Bing maps, here's the link to the area Syed took the image of: http://tinyurl.com/yzo52pt


Tom, thank you for the link.

Paul Pless
10-17-2009, 09:43 AM
Our house is in the very middle of that last picture you posted.

Mrleft8
10-17-2009, 09:45 AM
AH! I see it! The one with the pitiful little stack of firewood! ;)

Syed
10-17-2009, 11:20 AM
So, the game is over?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/Paul4.jpg

Paul Pless
10-17-2009, 03:12 PM
bingo. . .

Nanoose
10-17-2009, 03:19 PM
What? ain't heard'a pavement in the bush??

pefjr
10-17-2009, 03:27 PM
[quote=Syed;2353766]So, the game is over?

Syed, I tried this bing with my lat/ long but only get a road map. Are photos only just available in certain areas? My lat/ long is 48.36'45N/ 116.59'16W.

jack grebe
10-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Our house is in the very middle of that last picture you posted.
missle guidance systems locked on...........
prepare to launch:D

Paul Pless
10-17-2009, 03:51 PM
missle guidance systems locked on...........
prepare to launch:Di'm sure chuck has had us pegged for quitre some time;)

jack grebe
10-17-2009, 03:54 PM
Naaa, he just wants you outta the way:p

bruce w
10-17-2009, 03:56 PM
seeing all these trees makes me enveious ,where i live in the shetland isles there are very few trees ,but last year i got a phone call to tell me one of the few had fallen ,and did i want it ,i managed to get a new mizern gaff out of it ,it was nice to be thought of as it would have fire wood

Milo Christensen
10-17-2009, 04:03 PM
missle guidance systems locked on...........
prepare to launch:D

I asked Marilyn if I could say that and Marilyn said I couldn't say that. Dammit Jack!

Syed
10-17-2009, 10:50 PM
pefjr,

Only some areas are covered in detail on 'bing' and 'Google earth'. And even fewer have remarkable coverage like;

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/CRoss.jpg

pefjr
10-17-2009, 10:59 PM
[quote=Syed;2354310]pefjr,

Only some areas are covered in detail on 'bing' and 'Google earth'. And even fewer have remarkable coverage like;QUOTE

Thanks, I'll have to settle for GE and terra
server

Syed
10-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Oh, I think you need to download 'Free' virtual earth software for viewing those 3D images on 'bing'. There are many links on search engines, I unfortunately don't remember the site now. You might have to try a few of them.

Syed
10-19-2009, 12:48 PM
missle guidance systems locked on...........
prepare to launch:D

A beautiful marina.;)
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/pinstco/JackGrebe.jpg