PDA

View Full Version : Flying fish



Kaa
10-12-2009, 11:22 AM
No, not those flying fish... :D

http://lg.fishup.ru/files/89/e4/97/lg_14736911_output2_copy_2.jpg?v=4

And no, that's not Photoshop. The small black squiggle is a seal.

Kinda makes you rethink sea kayaking... :D

Kaa

bobbys
10-12-2009, 11:29 AM
Surfer here was almost bit in half years ago but lived, Right where i launch the Dory, I think about it every time i step in the water.

pefjr
10-12-2009, 11:32 AM
Yeah, I caught a couple of those on my bamboo fly rod last summer. Camera had a dead battery so I have no pictures. Used a #10 artificial baby seal, 10' leader, soft green line. Almost tore my reel up.

George.
10-12-2009, 12:00 PM
If that's not Photoshop, it's the wildlife picture of the year. On top of everything else, great light, and amazing water contrails on the shark's fin.

JBreeze
10-12-2009, 12:03 PM
Yikes! What a powerful beast!

switters
10-12-2009, 12:05 PM
Yeah, I caught a couple of those on my bamboo fly rod last summer. Camera had a dead battery so I have no pictures. Used a #10 artificial baby seal, 10' leader, soft green line. Almost tore my reel up.

5st rod I presume, just to keep it sporty.

great pic, almost looks like the shark is looking at the photographer, "you're next buddy"

Kaa
10-12-2009, 12:09 PM
I am pretty sure it's not Photoshop because it's known how to get such a picture.

There's an area off the coast of South Africa which is unique in that it's the only spot in the world where the great whites consistently and regularly hunt seals. In particular, the method used by sharks is to come up from the deep, nearly vertical, at high speed so that the seals cannot detect them in time. A side-effect is that after the hit the shark breaches, often enough becoming completely airborne.

For example, there is this rather well-known picture by Steven Bloom, a noted wildlife photographer, who spent about two weeks on a boat in this area waiting for the right moment:

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb271/xueli8822/sb4.jpg

Kaa

rbgarr
10-12-2009, 12:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-t2ayKadD0

Captain Blight
10-12-2009, 01:04 PM
Those things scare the living crap out of me. Sharks and bears and alligators. Gators probably most of all.

pipefitter
10-13-2009, 01:31 AM
There was a show on tv over the weekend (animal planet or something like that) that aired the footage of those GW's launching after seals like that. There was also mention of the incredible speed in which they strike as well, as they had to slow the video way down to capture it in such detail. It was fantastic to watch.

purri
10-13-2009, 02:52 AM
So from the photo the shark is "pro choice" ?

martin schulz
10-13-2009, 03:04 AM
Don't tell me you guys still believe that a professional photo will be published just the way it was taken...

EVERY picture you can see is edited/photoshopped. Some (Mariah Carey as example) more and some less.

jonboy
10-13-2009, 03:14 AM
Well, just a bit suspicious... the GW averages 5 metre 16', and largest reliable and authenticated specimens maybe 21' but even these recent specimens have been questioned... talk of 30' and up are from 19th C and unreliable info...
So if that black squiggle is a seal, commonly three to four feet and up to 6', that is either an extraordinarily small seal or the shark is about 40' long, or as in the Bloom picture,the seal appears to be way distant from the shark.....

Paul Pless
10-13-2009, 04:38 AM
Cool.

This is pretty well documented. As is Great White regurgitation. Not too long ago National Geographic did a photo essay on this behavior. To get the photos, which coincided with a scientifc expidition, they trolled artificial seal top water lures just as you would troll a big plug for marlin.

Mrleft8
10-13-2009, 07:50 AM
That guy needs to floss more diligently...

Kaa
10-13-2009, 09:42 AM
Another one, by the way...

http://lg.fishup.ru/files/7b/cf/97/lg_14731991_4_1_copy.jpg?v=3

Kaa

Popeye
10-13-2009, 09:48 AM
seal goes good with gravy and potatoes

TimH
10-13-2009, 09:51 AM
Im glad Megaladon is gone.

George.
10-13-2009, 09:59 AM
Good ones, kaa. A good start to a marine wildlife photography thread - or maybe wildlife photography in general.

Hal Forsen
10-13-2009, 10:25 AM
There has been a lot of white shark activity here in So Cal lately.
This link will take you to an amazing series of shots taken last week just off the beach north of LA by a fellow doing research for the Shark Research Committee.
http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/sequence-of-the-week-white-shark-breaches-in-la_31125/1/

The story is here.
http://www.sharkresearchcommittee.com/pacific_coast_shark_news.htm

ahp
10-13-2009, 04:54 PM
That is enough to make you move to a lake.

jonboy
10-14-2009, 01:05 PM
Another one, by the way...

http://lg.fishup.ru/files/7b/cf/97/lg_14731991_4_1_copy.jpg?v=3

Kaa

Again, if that seal is even only four feet long that shark is forty feet.....twice the accepted size......

Captain Blight
10-14-2009, 03:32 PM
What if it's a very young seal? They don't all come into this world at four feet in length.

TimH
10-14-2009, 04:05 PM
At any rate that shark is unacceptable.

Paul Pless
10-14-2009, 04:43 PM
especially to the seal

Robert L.
10-14-2009, 05:29 PM
http://72.41.23.68/images/bySixSealButts.jpg

Well!!!!

other than some image sharpening, color correction and the other stuff one does to give a very good picture some 'pop' I seriously doubt that the shark was tampered with. Way too much work compared with just making the seal smaller. Which in itself is more work than just choosing picts of big sharks and little seals. One article I read said that the GW's prefer the smaller juvenile seals often snapping them in two on the first bite and coming back around for the other half on the second pass. Anyway I took the image, made a selection that was more or less a guess as to how much seal might be in the mouth and how long it might be stretched out as apposed to being curled up in agony and we get about 6 seal lengths to the shark. So if that is a big 6' male seal the shark is about 36' feet long. If it is part of a young 2 or 3 footer the shark could be less than 12 feet. Given the number of respected photographers and organizations such as National Geo etc. who have pictures and videos of this feeding behavior, some showing bigger seals, some little ones, I am not sure there is a conspiracy of shark photographers spending hundreds of hours on these pictures pumping up the size of the sharks. In particular given the body of his other work Mr. Nikolai Zinoviev doesn't need to make the shark look bigger to take a good picture. And although I am not one of his fan's I think Kaa has found some pretty darn good images to share with us.

pefjr
01-03-2010, 07:41 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XjxZQd4MRvc/S0E4tG533kI/AAAAAAAAAsw/8HytK0cH_-8/s640/ATT1.jpg

Phillip Allen
01-03-2010, 07:48 PM
Yeah, I caught a couple of those on my bamboo fly rod last summer. Camera had a dead battery so I have no pictures. Used a #10 artificial baby seal, 10' leader, soft green line. Almost tore my reel up.

happens to me all the time...I understand

Phillip Allen
01-03-2010, 07:51 PM
so...did it turn out that the photographer captured a baby seal and then chummed up a shark to get these money making photos?

pefjr
01-03-2010, 07:53 PM
snope.com it

Phillip Allen
01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
snope.com it

do you think he will give away his money making secrets?

sailboy3
01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XjxZQd4MRvc/S0E4tG533kI/AAAAAAAAAsw/8HytK0cH_-8/s640/ATT1.jpg

That's Pefjr towin' his catch home:D

pefjr
01-03-2010, 07:55 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XjxZQd4MRvc/S0E8b6eBDiI/AAAAAAAAAts/xk0-hfqDxks/s576/ATT3.jpg

Concordia...41
01-03-2010, 07:55 PM
Quote from the photographer that took the sequence in Hal's link -


I'd heard about the one that breached on Friday, so I got up and paddled out at dawn on Saturday. emphasis added... :eek:

What I know about photography could could fit in the aft lazarette, but I like the second photograph kaa posted better than the first. I get the spray coming off the fin in the first, the second just seems more brilliant and in better focus overall.

pefjr
01-03-2010, 07:58 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XjxZQd4MRvc/S0E9C2MVsEI/AAAAAAAAAuI/sW6BFd1Dyhk/s576/ATT4.jpg

pefjr
01-03-2010, 08:00 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XjxZQd4MRvc/S0E9gp1d_LI/AAAAAAAAAuo/3BLnUaML7Ok/s720/ATT6.jpg

pefjr
01-03-2010, 08:13 PM
Uh...oh snopes says false

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/sharkslove.asp

Hal Forsen
01-04-2010, 10:56 AM
I took these photos a couple years ago on a fishing trip to Guadalupe Island off the coast of Baja.
Guadalupe is a well known hotbed of white shark activity and one of the few places where they feed almost exclusively on fish.
When you hook a fish there you have to wind for all you are worth or all you'll get back is a chunk of head.


http://www.allcoast.com/photos/data/500/104795Picture_005.jpg

That's about a 40 lb. tuna carcass on the end of the line....


http://www.allcoast.com/photos/data/500/104795IMGP0910.JPG

http://www.allcoast.com/photos/data/500/104795IMGP1086.JPG

They run a lot of shark tours down there but you wouldn't get me out of the boat on a bet.

Mrleft8
01-04-2010, 10:57 AM
I saw the "Animal Planet" show on the flying sharks, and if they faked that footage, they must have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars doing it.

Hal Forsen
01-04-2010, 11:04 AM
No fakery there.
I've personally seen whitey's that had to weigh at least a ton, completely airborne on several occasions.
That big tail creates a lot of thrust. ;)

SamSam
01-04-2010, 11:29 AM
Uh...oh snopes says false

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/sharkslove.asp

If you go to the bottom, snopes say true for the photo.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/sharkkayak.asp

pefjr
01-04-2010, 03:02 PM
If you go to the bottom, snopes say true for the photo.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/sharkkayak.asp
Correct, Sam, the pictures are legit, the story of gratitude is BS. Scot must know this as the story was deleted 2 times????

paladin
01-04-2010, 04:51 PM
Just gotta say..........When in Iceland, I decided during my stay to circumnavigate the island in stretches during working at the NATO base....if you look at a map and find Keflavik, go across the bottom of the island and up the eastern coast you will find a relatively small fishing village named Hofn, pronounced HUB. Hofn has a small harbor, and they have shark doors installed across the entrance to the harbor.....
I was sailing approx 1 mile from the entrance, and approached a small fishing boat, hand lining nets....I later learned the boat was 3 1/2 meters long.....as they were bringing in the nets, a great white, and I saw it coming, swam up behind the net, came partially out of the water, thru the fish laden net, almost capsized the boat with 2 fishermen, and emptied half the net on the way thru....the shark was longer than the fishing boat. This is the same area where a killer whale followed me into the harbor a couple of months later.

SMARTINSEN
01-04-2010, 07:31 PM
Those things scare the living crap out of me. Sharks and bears and alligators. Gators probably most of all.

Lions and tigers and bears--Oh My!

Captain Blight
01-04-2010, 09:17 PM
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad125/Boatpimp/Bikes/tumblr_kq55ec7GiN1qzpwi0o1_400.png

Davy Jones
01-04-2010, 10:00 PM
Here is a little fishy cought on a rod and reel by Walter Maxwell in North Myrtle Beach in 1964. A 1,780 lb Tiger shark! I saw them drag him on the beach with a tow truck when I was a little shaver. My grandfather was on the police dept. at the time and he heard on the radio there was a big shark being cought on the pier in Cherry grove. He came and picked me up to go see it and I really have not liked swimming in the ocean every since!

http://www.stripersonline.com/fish_photos/data/500/recordshark.jpeg

coelacanth2
01-04-2010, 10:39 PM
Bear tastes pretty good.

Captain Blight
01-04-2010, 10:44 PM
Beer tastes pretty good.Fixed that for ya.

Flying Orca
01-05-2010, 07:54 AM
Bear tastes pretty good.

Black bear's OK. Polar bear, not so much.

paladin
01-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Bear looks like a people when skinned out...

Flying Orca
01-05-2010, 12:38 PM
Has Chuck ever posted a long pig recipe? He's covered most of the other possibilities...