Not Wood but Unusual

[Dave R]

At least I've never seen anything that looks like this before.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2453/3945867672_912f445ea5.jpg

"The "Fruitful Vine" being fitted out at Macduff Slipway. Once she is sea worthy she will be registered as BF 240."

[Hal Forsen]

Anyone know what's the idea behind the design of these Banff Trawlers?

http://www.webhistorian.co.uk/pages/typo3temp/pics/dedd01cfbc.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

profit

[Dave R]

Kinda looks like they need Peter's sponsons. :D

[Clan Gordon]

The reason is that there are a lot of regulations and restrictions that apply to fishing vessels of more than 24m length - which are worth while avoiding.

That encourages the designers to offer vessels which maximise the VOLUME while still being under the length limit.

This is a very good example of well intended regulations having unintended (although very foreseable in this case) consequences.

It is a great shame, since previous legislation governing fishing vessels and their crew certification used to be based on boat volume. That allowed the naval architects to reach their client's limit while still offering good hull proportions.

Up until the late 1950s, the average Scottish motor fishing vessel was a rather slender (relatively speaking) vessel, with strong links to its sailing roots.

If you want to see something really ugly - look for an under 16m steel trawler. Their L/B ratio and underwater form is so skewed that they pitch rather than roll when lying beam on to the "wrong" waves. Nodding donkeys.

[peter radclyffe]

i guess a kort nozzle round the prop, up to 30 % more efficient at slower speeds, & the bulb bow is more aerodynamic, & ali shelterdecks, a very efficient machine, mcduffs are specialists, also napiers, arbroath

[Hal Forsen]

Thanks for the explanation. :)

Sláinte

[Thorne]

This topic was covered earlier when a similar boat was brought up for discussion. Interesting how laws influence boat design, innit? That's how tumblehome and some other unique design elements became so pervasive.

[Concordia...41]

My guess is that those guys, coming off a really bad crack high, designed this:

http://www.blackravenadventures.com/wp-content/gallery/black-raven/black-raven-09-05-05-3.jpg

[seatime]

Bf240 looks pregnant to me. Maybe it will have babies?

[Dave R]

My guess is that those guys, coming off a really bad crack high, designed this:

http://www.blackravenadventures.com/wp-content/gallery/black-raven/black-raven-09-05-05-3.jpg

The draft on that boat is 16 feet with a big lead bulb at the bottom of the keel. :D

[zertgold]

Ugly boats, Another reason to vote Libertarian.

[gert]

MMD help us out with this one :confused:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2453/3945867672_912f445ea5.jpg

Theres no fish in Banff !

[44xt]

Telll that to all the fly fisherman lined up along the Bow river.

[gert]

Telll that to all the fly fisherman lined up along the Bow river.

O.K.

But where would you put it in?

[Hal Forsen]

Theres no fish in Banff !

The ORIGINAL Banff on the NORTH SEA in Scotland not Canada. :rolleyes:

http://www.abdn.ac.uk/slavery/img/map1.jpg

That's why the man in SCOTLAND knew the answer to my question!

:cool:

[gert]

The ORIGINAL Banff on the NORTH SEA in Scotland not Canada. :rolleyes:


I'll bet the Canadian Banff is prettier though :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3550/3953590579_1f44a82533_o.jpg
Not quite on the coast either :rolleyes: that's about 850k away :D

[Hal Forsen]

Not quite on the coast either :rolleyes: that's about 850k away
I know where both of them are......... :p

They are both too bloody cold 10 months of the year for my taste. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Banffscotland.jpg

[Nicholas Scheuer]

Too bad we won't be able to watch when she tries to surf down the face of a wave like the special effects folks depicted in The Perfect Storm, eh?

Moby Nick

[gert]

They are both too bloody cold 10 months of the year for my taste. :D


But a Californian would say that, about most places ;) even in a Canadian summer

[TimH]

For a minute I thought this was the fugly boat thread

[Hal Forsen]

even in a Canadian summer
Yup. I've seen those hummingbird sized mosquitos..... :p

[Lewisboats]

One wonders if it isn't water ballasted to get it down to it's lines then gradually pumped out as the holds fill up. It looks like a beach ball as it stands.

[Hal Forsen]

You can see a bunch more of this type here:
http://www.webhistorian.co.uk/pages/index.php?id=102

http://www.webhistorian.co.uk/pages/uploads/pics/BF155_Pleiades_Fraserburgh_Harbour_14feb2009.jpg

[keith66]

There is a series on television at the moment "Trawlermen" those boats roll like turds in pisspots, you wouldnt get me on one if you paid me!