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Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 09:50 AM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/PaulPless/50949-500-0.jpg?t=1251730117

Don't she purty?

Tylerdurden
08-31-2009, 09:52 AM
Alpha?

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 09:54 AM
nope

Tylerdurden
08-31-2009, 09:59 AM
Sure looks Italian.

Popeye
08-31-2009, 10:01 AM
ferrari

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 10:03 AM
Come on popeye, there are no difficult to identify Ferrari coupes from the sixties...

Popeye
08-31-2009, 10:04 AM
... mmm .. 68 ?

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 10:10 AM
Maybe this will help... sure looks like something a hotrodder would do... polished aluminum intake and heads....

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/PaulPless/engine.jpg?t=1251731253

If I'm not mistaken, Paladin has some experience with this powerplant in an aeroplane.

Tylerdurden
08-31-2009, 10:11 AM
Not Buick?

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 10:14 AM
Yes its a Buick engine, but the car is most certainly not a Buick...

Here's a hint, this particular car is 1966 model and there were 77 of them manufactured that year. This model was manufatured from 1964 to 1968. Only 12 remain.

Mrleft8
08-31-2009, 10:15 AM
Lancia?

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 10:19 AM
nope

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 10:23 AM
Apollo GT?

botebum
08-31-2009, 10:25 AM
Jaguar?

Doug

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 10:26 AM
Nailed it Uncle Duke!

These were manufactured in Italy, where the aluminum bodies were made. The Buick engines were built by a race shop in Texas. Borg Warner 4 speed with a Dana center section rear end made them pretty much bullet proof. Surprising that so few remain...

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 10:48 AM
OK - round 2... ID this little number (we used one of these as the "mail pick-up car" when I worked at Chinetti's):
http://15.media.tumblr.com/FMjAUV0Jinvt2un9wXLZbRBMo1_500.jpg
(http://15.media.tumblr.com/FMjAUV0Jinvt2un9wXLZbRBMo1_500.jpg)

Popeye
08-31-2009, 10:50 AM
.. 85

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 10:51 AM
Here's another look:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2120328467_ea59a99066.jpg

John B
08-31-2009, 02:03 PM
That one of Pauls has a mazza mouth on it. Any design heritage / sharing with the maserati designers?

bobbys
08-31-2009, 02:04 PM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/PaulPless/50949-500-0.jpg?t=1251730117

Don't she purty?.

1966 rambler???

Popeye
08-31-2009, 02:14 PM
hey , knock it off, dad had a rambler

i talked him out of buying the gremlin tho' , got a dodge dart instead

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 02:16 PM
Uncle Duke, you've got me completely stumped. It looks so familar but I can't put a name on it. Maybe Ross M will check in...

Popeye
08-31-2009, 02:24 PM
lamborghini

John B
08-31-2009, 02:38 PM
interesting.

Though partially inspired by the new E-Type Jaguar, Ron Plescia says that it was the incredibly sleek sports cars of Enzo Ferrari that really influenced his final design for the 1962-1965 Apollo GT. "Ferrari had really gotten a hold of me emotionally. Everything I drew for a long time had that sharp Monza look about it."



The original Apollo design was an aluminum-bodied fastback without rear quarter windows. That's how the prototype appeared when it debuted in the October 1, 1962, issue of Automotive News. Before going into production, however, Reisner commissioned famed Italian designer Franco Scaglione, creator of the Alfa Romeo BAT and Spring Speciale, to do a final rendering of the Apollo.

Working from Plescia's original designs, Scaglione added a larger backlight, rear quarter windows, and a new, bolder grille -- all for the better. He was later called upon by Brown and Reisner to design the Apollo convertible in 1963.


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1962-1965-apollo-gt.htm

ron ll
08-31-2009, 02:39 PM
Is it a "Coys"? :D

Tylerdurden
08-31-2009, 02:44 PM
Looks OPEL ish.

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 02:54 PM
Lamborghini? Coys? Opel?

Nope. Nope. Nope. :D

Mid-engined, if that helps.....and either of the 2 names counts (original manufacturer and the 'take-over' manufacturer).....:D

ron ll
08-31-2009, 02:56 PM
Glas/BMW?

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 02:58 PM
Glas/BMW?Sorry.:D

peter radclyffe
08-31-2009, 03:00 PM
murcelago

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 03:01 PM
Is it a "Coys"? :D


.. 85A Coys 85 perhaps? ;)

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 03:03 PM
murcelagoAgain... sorry, but no.

Time for a hint? Renault engine.

(I'll check in later when I get home, but that clue really ought to be enough!)

ron ll
08-31-2009, 03:08 PM
Dauphine?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
08-31-2009, 03:10 PM
Matra Djet?

ron ll
08-31-2009, 03:33 PM
Matra Djet?

Looks like you nailed it. I never would have found that.

Paul Pless
08-31-2009, 03:48 PM
Looks like you nailed it. I never would have found that.me either... i was stuck in an alpina - dauphine loop...


I look forward to PISN's challenge.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
08-31-2009, 03:50 PM
Could be an anti-climax.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-cars5/49.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
08-31-2009, 04:02 PM
Close, but no coconut.

botebum
08-31-2009, 04:06 PM
Seat/Fiat?

Doug

John Meachen
08-31-2009, 04:11 PM
I used to live next door to a man who had an example of the car in the latest question and this probably gives me an unfair advantage over people who are unlikely to have been within three thousand miles of one.If it helps,I believe it shared an engine with the Ginetta G15.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
08-31-2009, 04:14 PM
Fred's got it.

Imp variants

Hillman Imp
Hillman Imp Mark I
Hillman Imp de Luxe Mark I & Mark II
Hillman Imp Super
Hillman Imp GT (Australian model)
Hillman Californian (coupé / fastback saloon version)
Hillman Husky (estate version of the Imp from 1967)
Commer Imp Van (from November 1965)
Hillman Imp Van
Singer Chamois Mark I, Mark II, Sport, & Coupé (upmarket, luxury versions of the Imp)
Sunbeam Imp Sport
Sunbeam Sport
Sunbeam Chamois & Chamois Coupé (luxury version of the Imp)
Sunbeam Stiletto
Sunbeam Californian
Sunbeam Imp Basic (North America)
Sunbeam Imp De Luxe Mark I & Mark II (North America)
[edit]Cars using Imp mechanicals

Clan Crusader
Ginetta Cars G15
Davrian Imp
Bond Bond 875 & variants
Siva Llama
Beach Mk4

PeterSibley
08-31-2009, 04:25 PM
Lotus ?

oznabrag
08-31-2009, 04:27 PM
Fred's got it.

Imp variants
...

Hillman Husky (estate version of the Imp from 1967)

...

I had a Husky when I was much younger and less foolish.

It had a straight front axle from a late-50's Chevy pickup, a Buick V-6 and automatic, and the differential from a '57 Chevy.

Never really finished the car, and the paint was the pits, but it really was some kinda thing! :)

John B
08-31-2009, 04:58 PM
Total guess, never seen one like it... de Tomaso?

paladin
08-31-2009, 05:22 PM
Had an aluminum Buick engine for the aircraft...dunno about the cast iron one....sucker developed about 220 hp without turbo.

Tylerdurden
08-31-2009, 06:27 PM
Had an aluminum Buick engine for the aircraft...dunno about the cast iron one....sucker developed about 220 hp without turbo.

I have a buddy who claims to have such an animal in his barn. I would think with a holley fuel injection it would be a trick setup.
Think I could cram one into a Husky?

Uncle Duke
08-31-2009, 06:50 PM
Boy - stuff really moves along when you aren't looking...
From "P.I. Stazzer-Newt (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/member.php?u=9605)"

Matra Djet? Exactly - originally the "Rene Bonnet D-Jet", later the "Matra D-Jet"....

Carry on....:D

Dan McCosh
08-31-2009, 07:26 PM
Looks like this to me

http://gallery.italiancarclub.com/carshows/FFO/ffo05/cars/IMG_1123.jpg.html

Captain Blight
09-01-2009, 02:53 PM
Okay, one last picture of the most common rear side window treatment:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/1563C_1.jpg

This is an old world - new world combination. Later made on another continent.Puma. Almost bought one about 5 years ago. Wish I had, glad I didn't. One of just a few cars to have the elusive 4x110 lug pattern (along with Pugeuot and Subaru).

Ian, Lotus 27?

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-01-2009, 07:44 PM
Looks Alpine to me Fred, but I can't place it.

OK, I'll hurl down my own gauntlet:

http://www.cartype.com/pics/7000/full/nsu_ro80_3_67.jpg

Hint: It had inboard brakes. :)

John B
09-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Looks like nsu ish to me.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-02-2009, 12:14 AM
Yeah looks like an NSU Ro80 - but you can't throw down the gauntlet... I won the last one and already threw the gauntlet down ... so back in your corner Bob

Well that was quick. I retreat. (Damn, this is a sharp bunch. Can't put nuthin' by'em!)

Oh, by the way, Abarth?

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 11:53 AM
Bolwell NagariWow. That's obscure!

And Bob's, of course, is indeed "NSU R0 80"

Popeye
09-02-2009, 12:06 PM
What's unusual about this one?

aluminum ?

Popeye
09-02-2009, 12:19 PM
v8 ?

Joe (SoCal)
09-02-2009, 12:33 PM
Lancia beta?

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 12:53 PM
Renault 17?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-02-2009, 01:37 PM
Matra simca three abrest seating?

Bagheera iirc

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 01:40 PM
Matra simca three abrest seating?
Ah - of course! Also known as the "Bagherra"....
Well done!

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-02-2009, 01:48 PM
Me again
http://uk.geocities.com/tradcarclub/images/classic.JPG

Funnily enough I saw one last week down a back lane in Port Talbot!

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 01:52 PM
Ford Capri

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Got it in one.
Aka Consul classic capri.

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Staying in Britain - this was my first car. Not as clean as these, but for $100 I wasn't picky.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/97/213604887_03a41a6dbf.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/6/69656036_d9a53ac323.jpg?v=0

Henning 4148
09-02-2009, 02:06 PM
The Bagheera had one hell of a bad reputation in Germany. The question was less if something was broken, the question was more if there were enough parts working to be able to drive at all - at least that was the reputation.

Haven't seen one in ages - a few must still be around, at least partly, IIRC the body was fibreglass.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-02-2009, 03:11 PM
Renault 17?

That was my guess too. Great minds think (and err) alike.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-02-2009, 03:18 PM
Bolwell Nagari

Well THAT'S not in the Wiki list of sports car manufacturers! How dare Bigfella prevent my cheating! :D (And yet it is referenced separately in Wiki. Well that's no fair, then I need to actually know the name!)

Uncle Duke
09-02-2009, 04:01 PM
Fred gets the prize!
I bought it from our local librarian, whose son had painted it yellow. With a brush.

Ross M
09-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Tough crowd!

I don't stand a chance with a full body shot. How about by engine only?

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Notthateasy.jpg

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-03-2009, 04:03 AM
Next:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car5.jpg

L.J.K. Setright once wrote an essay about old curved cars with flat glass, which contrasted the then current folded-and-creased cars with curved glass. :)

Looks Ghia to me, but that's not my final answer.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-03-2009, 04:08 AM
Could that be an early Kharmann Ghia.....

Nope (http://www.karmann-ghia.co.uk/Evolution.htm)


L.J.K. Setright <<<< much missed, florid but often astute.

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 07:18 AM
Pretty easy, this one:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/49-1.jpg

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 07:25 AM
I keep thinking its an Iso
Related, actually...

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 07:26 AM
Bizzarini Iso Grifo
Close enough! Bizzarini 9300 Strada...

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-03-2009, 07:34 AM
Lambo diablo?

Tylerdurden
09-03-2009, 07:46 AM
http://www.pahighlander.com/images/Airport_Show_UniMog.jpg

Tylerdurden
09-03-2009, 07:58 AM
Nah - you've got to show that you actually know something before you get a turn


How is it your playing then?

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 09:03 AM
Dang. I'm totally stumped...:(

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-03-2009, 09:09 AM
It's a Ferrari Countach - electrically driven 4x4 with a 7.2v Ni-Cad pack

1/12 scale.

Popeye
09-03-2009, 09:14 AM
engine configuration

longitudinally mounted ?

Tylerdurden
09-03-2009, 09:31 AM
I keep getting the answers right. You should pay more attention before having a shot. You keep missing.

Considering the source I should let it pass but when someone is having issues with their vehicle do you think they seek out the trivia experts?;)

Popeye
09-03-2009, 09:37 AM
ferraghini ..

lamborarri ?

Noah
09-03-2009, 10:50 AM
http://www.pahighlander.com/images/Airport_Show_UniMog.jpg

Unimog.

Tylerdurden
09-03-2009, 10:57 AM
Unimog.


Yep, Wish I could afford one. Very pricey.

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 07:15 PM
Back to the car in question.... transverse engine, very unusual configuration - a bit under 6 litres in capacity. Car does over 200 mph. Not cheap.Yeah - but I'm still stumped. Throw a clue here?:D

Captain Blight
09-03-2009, 07:38 PM
I can't remember the car, but I know the engine is mounted on top of the transmission/transaxle. IIRC, they share a common oil system which makes no sense to me at all.

Uncle Duke
09-03-2009, 08:09 PM
IIRC, they share a common oil system which makes no sense to me at all. Worked for the original Mini's, as I recall.
Having said that..... uhmmm... probably not the best idea ever.:D

Ross M
09-03-2009, 08:22 PM
Cizeta-Moroder V16T :D

Paul Pless
09-03-2009, 08:27 PM
Cizeta-Moroder V16T :DQuite dated stylstically considering it was produced in the mid 1990's. . .

Ross M
09-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Agreed. To much Lamborghini in front, and the worst of Ferrari in the back. But I understand the sound track was glorious :cool:

This one is of seminal importance, IIRC:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/hmmm.jpg

Ross M
09-03-2009, 08:53 PM
Hmmm... Bigfella's posts have disappeared. One too many punches of the TD button?

But trust me, there was a Cizeta picture posted :D

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-03-2009, 09:15 PM
Yep, Wish I could afford one. Very pricey.

Nice geared hubs though.

Ha, you think that's pricey, try the HEMTT behind it. Oshkosh, B'gosh, if I recall.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Cizeta-Moroder V16T :D

Well I don't see the picture in question, the original post must be gone, but that was a very interesting car. Transverse V16, actually 2 flat-plane crank V8s side-by-each with a center-takeoff for the trans. I remember when it came out. Wide sucka.

Ross M
09-04-2009, 06:13 AM
Well, I got Ross's Abarth, so here's my next one...


Very close. Cisitalia 202 GT (1946), Pininfarina. One of 7 permanent vehicles in MOMA.

The Abarth (1951) was an "interpretation" by Michelotti.

Rigadog
09-04-2009, 06:54 AM
That's a Monteputanesca Gigilo. They only made six of them.

Popeye
09-04-2009, 07:19 AM
That's a Monteputanesca Gigilo. They only made six of them.


.. in the late eighties , in a spanish town next to qued el kikki and old seville

the designers daughter had a cat who hacked up a fur ball , it's how monteputanesca got the idea for the color

Tylerdurden
09-04-2009, 08:28 AM
Nice geared hubs though.

Ha, you think that's pricey, try the HEMTT behind it. Oshkosh, B'gosh, if I recall.

I have a buddy in the Berkshires who owns one with most of the attachments. Its a tractor in every sense of the word.
He does all his farming with it and has for going on 20 years now.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-04-2009, 08:28 AM
Fookin Ell - I knew we'd get a Wartburg eventually but I expected a whole one.

Melkus RS 1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkus_RS_1000)

Timo_N62.9_E27.7
09-04-2009, 08:48 AM
Yeah, but whole Wartburg's are too damned ugly to post here.

This one has a two-stroke engine as well:
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1956_saab_sonett_2.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-04-2009, 09:25 AM
OK folks - not a wartburg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/DougReid/Mystery15.jpg

Popeye
09-04-2009, 09:53 AM
peugeot ..?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-04-2009, 11:11 AM
Well done - the only car to have a raceboat class named after it.

Brit kit - circa 1976 - and sporting the ubiquitous Morris Marina Door-handle.

andrewe
09-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Ginetta G21
I had a G15, which looked very similar if smaller.
A

andrewe
09-04-2009, 04:28 PM
British kit cars, of which there were many, flourished because the they where exempt from the tax charged on complete cars. There had to be a certain component of self assembly. Bit like the 50% rule in homebuilt aircraft. The change in the system on the introduction of VAT(sales tax), chargable on all sales, made it uneconomic to supply cars in this manner. Easier to sell them complete. I ordered a kit, but they were unable to supply it before the deadline. Coincidently a virtually new one was for sale locally, so I bought that. It was quite the finest handling car I have owned. Performence of an MG B, with much lower fuel consumption.
Ginetta are still in business.
Andrew

At that time the Chairman of our company had a '62 Ferrari GTO (road legal)which he had raced and when it became outclassed bought off the team for £6,000. Not a bad investment.... I think he may still have it. ( and my cousin had two GT40 racers, lucky sod)

Paul Pless
09-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Andrewe, its your your turn post a puzzler...

andrewe
09-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Paul, not much point in posting a pic of the GTO, even someone from the Ozarks (ducks) would spot that:). I am on a new computer as the old disliked red wine:rolleyes: And all my pics are locked up in the old drive. I could have posted one of a car we built in '72 and kept every one guessing as it is only now seen at a few hill climbs; Good for 150mph with an Alfa mid mounted engine and weighed less than a Mini.
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Saltiguy
09-04-2009, 08:25 PM
Those little Buick aluminum v-8' were fantastic. I had one stuffed into an AC . Aluminum body (basis for the Cobra) 1500 lbs, cranked out 225 hp . The engine block alone only weighed about 200 lbs ( without flywheel and manifolds.)
The car was a beast - hooked up to Corvette 4-speed.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-05-2009, 12:52 AM
I have a buddy in the Berkshires who owns one with most of the attachments. Its a tractor in every sense of the word.
He does all his farming with it and has for going on 20 years now.

I assume you mean the Unimog and not the HEMTT! A HEMTT pulling a plow is a bit overkill.

Yes, but does he have the street sweeper attachment? I've seen one. Have also seen one pulling train cars around the yard. Truly an all-purpose truck.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-05-2009, 12:54 AM
Great. We're going back to the dark ages. 1910 Argyll.

Let's get back to sportier cars:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car8.jpg

Oh bloody hell, I saw that one when I was googling trying to cheat, I mean research on an earlier one. I remember the distinctive front bumper and turn lights. Can't remember it! *Throws up hands in disgust*

PeterSibley
09-05-2009, 07:13 AM
Here's one I have up on the Race Day thread ,easy for you mob !

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/373454648.jpg

PeterSibley
09-05-2009, 07:36 AM
Looks like one ....but it's not .

Ross M
09-05-2009, 09:07 AM
Alf Francis had a small exotic car dealership in my home town of Wichita. One of these was the centerpiece for a time:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Coupe.jpg

PeterSibley
09-05-2009, 05:17 PM
Well done Ian ! It was at the race day yesterday ....a lovely car , especially for 1946 .

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-05-2009, 05:21 PM
Westland-Healey Elliott ... or Healey-Westland Elliott

http://www.marqueart.com/marqueart/pictures/background/background_healey_elliott_saloon/healey_elliott_front_small.jpg

Yes but the headlights and turn/fog lights have been swapped in your picture versus the other one! No just colors but sizes. Your version looks more sporty, the other more frumpy. :)

Uncle Duke
09-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Alf Francis had a small exotic car dealership in my home town of Wichita. One of these was the centerpiece for a time:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Coupe.jpg

Nose looks like a "Serenissima".... but that would be really obscure.

Ross M
09-06-2009, 03:04 PM
Nose looks like a "Serenissima".... but that would be really obscure.

I don't think many of them made it to Kansas :D

Serenissima Jungli GT, w/bespoke 3 liter V8. Also available as a spyder:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Spider.jpg

And later, a competition coupe:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Racer.jpg

ChaseKenyon
09-06-2009, 03:48 PM
extra challenge one late owner of both cars same car different years. Less than 100 built total.

What car?

What years?

What engine?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g3yRFtcI/AAAAAAAAAKM/QkeujZZMFvM/s800/IMG_1825.jpg


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g54YBsqI/AAAAAAAAAKY/T1uftCenV2I/s800/IMG_1832.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g6bEw0VI/AAAAAAAAAKc/huobTlxVkYY/s640/IMG_1834.jpg

ChaseKenyon
09-06-2009, 03:50 PM
And the other one:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g8XD0KGI/AAAAAAAAAKs/Ngp7vOxh5Os/IMG_1605.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g9vZ4IhI/AAAAAAAAAK8/yUP_oBCMntk/IMG_1618.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g-fzi2nI/AAAAAAAAALE/-4EFiH_q3iw/IMG_1615.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-06-2009, 04:00 PM
Jensen FF. - inspired by the tractorman. and what might be an interceptor.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-06-2009, 04:17 PM
Only fitting to have a Quattro (turbo Avant) in the background. Looks like an '86 or '87.

I'll fill in the engine, I think it had a 383 Chrysler wedge and I'm guessing a Torqueflite 3 speed.

Bonus points: Dunlop Maxaret anti-lock brakes.

Uncle Duke
09-06-2009, 06:09 PM
Serenissima. Dang. Sometimes lucky is good enough. :D
OK. If we are going to get obscure, this is not quite as "production" as that... but still lovely!http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d727b3127ccef858a269270000000040O00AZNGTNy0Ztm QPbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d727b3127ccef8585b87670a00000040O00AZNGTNy0Ztm QPbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

andrewe
09-07-2009, 12:47 AM
Sorry P.I. and others. That is a plain Jensen Interceptor, the FF had two side vents behind the front wheel. Picky but...
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The 2nd lot of pix didn't show up at first, I am talking about the green one

Ross M
09-07-2009, 04:51 PM
Serenissima. Dang. Sometimes lucky is good enough. :D
OK. If we are going to get obscure, this is not quite as "production" as that... but still lovely!http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d727b3127ccef858a269270000000040O00AZNGTNy0Ztm QPbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d727b3127ccef8585b87670a00000040O00AZNGTNy0Ztm QPbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Looks like a one-off; Drogo perhaps?

Uncle Duke
09-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Looks like a one-off; Drogo perhaps?
Not Drogo. 4 made, I think, with an eye to a production run, which never came about. American designer (which probably gives it away) who lived and worked in Italy for much of his career...

ChaseKenyon
09-08-2009, 01:36 AM
the missing
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g9vZ4IhI/AAAAAAAAAK8/yUP_oBCMntk/s128/IMG_1618.jpg


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g8XD0KGI/AAAAAAAAAKs/Ngp7vOxh5Os/IMG_1605.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/Sg2g-fzi2nI/AAAAAAAAALE/-4EFiH_q3iw/IMG_1615.jpg

Yep two Interceptor drop heads. Both with the Mopar 440 CI TNT engine. Green is 76 red is 74 and yes that is real original mileage on the Cerise red ( one of 23) one.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qLyeq4V_F8Y/SimjHsLsKCI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/PA0X1T35bPc/s800/IMG_1952.JPG


The 88 TQ5000 Quattro Avant is one of ours. It is an ex Ice racer, LOwered, comp suspension and drivline 1.5 times normal turbo, custom turbo back (inc cat con) 3 inch exhaust and more.

The Unlisted not made officially VDP SC, with cats and all the goodies for 2002 release is my 99 called "Shadow Car" after one of the wife's cats that poses for a panther. A panther is actually a "Melanistic Jaguar" which means black fur but the spots can be still seen in the right light.

More oddities to come I have an an 8 ft shelf devoted to automotive history.

CHase

Hope everyone had a good holiday weekend.:D

Uncle Duke
09-08-2009, 09:39 AM
Ross M:

Looks like a one-off; Drogo perhaps?
Moi:

Not Drogo. 4 made, I think, with an eye to a production run, which never came about. American designer (which probably gives it away) who lived and worked in Italy for much of his career...

Further info: probably actually manufactured by Drogo, but designed by <that guy> - so you are closer than I acknowledged...:D

Uncle Duke
09-08-2009, 10:13 AM
OK - somebody needs to post something less obscure. :D:D
That is the lovely "Thomassima 3", designed by Tom Meade, who made a career out of re-bodying racing cars and almost became the designer for the second generation Shelby Cobra (Carol Shelby sold to Ford just before the project got underway).
More here (http://www.theautochannel.com/publications/magazines/sci/aug-sept-98/pg78.frame).

Popeye
09-08-2009, 11:45 AM
acme 9000

Popeye
09-08-2009, 11:59 AM
i wuz gonna guess nash rambler or tucker , but maybe not

kinda james bondish , aston martin

ChaseKenyon
09-08-2009, 01:46 PM
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car7c1.jpg




Borgward Isabella rare convertible and they had a wicked cool four speed on the column.

Uncle Duke
09-08-2009, 01:54 PM
Borgward Isabella rare convertible and they had a wicked cool four speed on the column. You 'da man!

Noah
09-08-2009, 01:59 PM
My grandparents had a Borgward!

ChaseKenyon
09-08-2009, 02:01 PM
Here is one of my all time favorites.

the chassis, engine, drive line and overall specifications reads almost identical to the Porsche 928 which came 25 years later. The 928 was seemingly built to look more modern but be basically a continuation of the everyone different less than 100 of these built.

Of note was the 1955 or 6 international auto show in Hartford, CT. The factory test driver had to get the car from Bridgeport CT to Hartford on the Merrit Parkway/ Berlin Turnpike. The best roads he had ever seen. So at a speed of 100 to 130 MPH he led the CT Troopers o the wildest car chase.

http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/outros/phf/pegaso_bt_z103_1956.jpg

P.S. Jay Leno owns one.:D

Popeye
09-08-2009, 02:06 PM
too much borgwad and you will end up getting assimilated

Popeye
09-08-2009, 02:14 PM
http://www.automarkhistory.com/images/Bricklin_SV-1_1975.jpg

John B
09-08-2009, 02:15 PM
too much borgwad and you will end up getting assimilated

sevenofnine,mmmmmm

ChaseKenyon
09-08-2009, 02:18 PM
Here's a really good one. Two were built, but the tooling and molds for castings all is still available. A stock production block that was always gear drive camshaft not chain simplified the conversion. At 269 Cu In (4.40 litre) it put out 372 Bhp at 7100 rpm in 1954.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/1719493630_7719bed6d7.jpg


:D:D

Uncle Duke
09-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Pegaso

and... Popeye's is a Bricklin

Ross M
09-08-2009, 06:32 PM
Pegaso

and...

Uncle Duke scores a two for one (probably unwittingly :D (Pegaso is also the answer to post #80; Z-102 Saoutchick in that case))

As for the engine in Chase's post: Studebaker Indy, designed by Leo Goosen of Miller/Offenhauser/Drake fame.

Uncle Duke
09-08-2009, 06:40 PM
As for the engine in Chase's post: Studebaker Indy, designed by Leo Goosen of Miller/Offenhauser/Drake fame.
DANG!!@!
I was thinking Offenhauser because of the long head and short block (look to where the bolts are...) but I couldn't persuade myself. I went off on a "Moser" head tangent, which was about 10 years laters.
DANG!

Paul Pless
09-08-2009, 06:43 PM
As for the engine in Chase's post: Studebaker Indy, designed by Leo Goosen of Miller/Offenhauser/Drake fame.
I think you ought to get the next puzzler for that answer!

Ross M
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
I think you ought to get the next puzzler for that answer!

Color me grateful for the Bergspyder reference on the 9/9/09 thread. Imagine that - one of my favorite cars (908/3 Spyder) has a sister. Thanks for introducing us :cool:

Anyhow, here is my shot - obviously a one-off, but a very famous one:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/LSR.jpg

John B
09-08-2009, 08:28 PM
easy... clearly thats Lady Penelope's Roller.

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/th/thunderbirds-fab-1-&-parker-&-lady-penelope-figure-corgi-classics-ltd.jpg

Ross M
09-08-2009, 09:08 PM
LOL!

It is more like Lady Houston's Roller, in a round about way :D

And it died in NZ.

Paul Pless
09-08-2009, 09:11 PM
Color me grateful for the Bergspyder reference on the 9/9/09 thread. Was wondering if anyone was gonna catch that...

I saw you were recently in Germany. Did you make any special car related stops?

Paul Pless
09-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Oh yeah... Eyston's Thunderbolt: 357.5 mph in 1938. :)

Ross M
09-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Oh yeah... Eyston's Thunderbolt: 357.5 mph in 1938. :)

You nailed it. Twin Rolls-Royce Schnieder Trophy "R"s :cool:

The visit to Germany was unfortunately bereft of dedicated automotive events. 6 hours of good fun on the autobahnen though. Still amazed at the performance available from the modern turbo diesel.

Paul Pless
09-08-2009, 09:48 PM
here's a real easy one, almost too easy...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/PaulPless/id.jpg

JimD
09-08-2009, 09:55 PM
I miss these:

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Studebaker/1953StudebakerCommanderStarlightCoupeV8_withODTran smission-b.jpg

http://www.studebakergarage.com/images/studebaker_service.jpg

John B
09-08-2009, 10:51 PM
LOL!

It is more like Lady Houston's Roller, in a round about way :D

And it died in NZ.


in ter esting.


Thunderbolt today
Thunderbolt toured New Zealand during WW2, but was destroyed by a fire. Engine remains can be seen in the Museum of Transport and Technology, Western Springs, Auckland, NZ.

Another surviving engine can be seen in the Science Museum in London.



A friend of mine works in a senior role at MOTAT.

Popeye
09-09-2009, 06:44 AM
stanley steamer

Uncle Duke
09-09-2009, 12:05 PM
here's a real easy one, almost too easy...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/PaulPless/id.jpg

Is that 2 V-8's mated at the crank?

Popeye
09-09-2009, 12:06 PM
can she go a mile a minute ?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Napier Railton?

Uncle Duke
09-09-2009, 12:38 PM
Wow - a "W-12" engine, three banks of 4 cylinders each, the "Napier Lion" !!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/LionEngine.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-09-2009, 12:38 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/DougReid/Sportscar3.jpg

Popeye
09-09-2009, 12:52 PM
amc mudskipper

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-09-2009, 01:46 PM
He izz too good.

Popeye
09-09-2009, 01:53 PM
morris

ChaseKenyon
09-09-2009, 02:25 PM
Uncle Duke scores a two for one (probably unwittingly :D (Pegaso is also the answer to post #80; Z-102 Saoutchick in that case))

As for the engine in Chase's post: Studebaker Indy, designed by Leo Goosen of Miller/Offenhauser/Drake fame.


Ross wins!!!!!

Now to put that output which is on line with a 2003 "superCharged Jaguar XJR into contention for modern times put it back up to 289 or the boredout R size of 304 and just do an R5 like my 62/63 GranTurismo Hawk had, and since the 304 bored out Hawk had over 550hp at the rear wheels and you could easily be looking at a 600 to 700 BHP on the street.


Now Studebaker is the only car IIRC that eveer had a production vehicle chassis taken off the productionline and then race bodied as stock and then won INDY with it.

question is when and how MANY times, what years.

Also the new Jaguar XFR justr set a new class record of 227 at Bonnevile. This steals the IIRC "C class Production stock" record from the Studie Avanti which several years ago took back the title it held for 20 plus years the first time at a recorded 213 mph. that is in class c or d production stock.

Hell a base R2 single paXTON sc 289 63 GT Hawk was guaranteed by Stude to go over 140. mOST WOULD HIT 150. aND THEN THERE was the R3 and the R4 and the have the dealer ship your engine to paxton dealer option of R5 twin paxton upgrade.

Plus even today stock R2s and R3s kill even the Hemi and 440 6 pack cudas and runners and GTO Judges at the national pure stock muscle car drags. Low 13s and 109 and even some high 12s on occasion. Street pure stock cars as delivered to the dealer.:D

Yeah I am a 3rd gen Stuie fan. Gramps had an ex Indie chassis that was bodied by factory Fancy Stude president with the Brougham body.

Uncle Duke
09-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Now Studebaker is the only car IIRC that eveer had a production vehicle chassis taken off the productionline and then race bodied as stock and then won INDY with it.Well, if you mean NHRA at Indianapolis, then there was a Studebaker Starlight which kept winning for years - into the 1970's I think. But you probably are looking for something more exotic than that....

ChaseKenyon
09-09-2009, 03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJdBO3tib3g

ChaseKenyon
09-09-2009, 04:02 PM
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z13664/Studebaker-Indy-Racer.aspx

ChaseKenyon
09-09-2009, 04:08 PM
this story is taken from an article that appeared in classic car africa, january 2000 by robert young. Part one appeared in our summer 2000 issue. It is due in large part to our member john shanahan.part two

the motor to be used in the racers was the 336 cu. In. President engine. The vice-president of the engineering division laid down that there was to be no special selection of parts or balancing of parts. Parts were to be selected from the proprietary parts bin and engines were to be assembled to production tolerances. No modifications were even made to the compression ratio or camshafts. The only changes to the engine set-up were a magneto ignition system for the distributor system, and four downdraught carburetors and special manifolding replacing the single updraught carburetor.
The hunt special was used as prototype and the frames and bodies were built by a german artison, herman rigling, who had a small shop that built and fixed racing cars. It was a part blacksmith, part welding shop, part machine shop and part body forming shop. Legend has it that rigling built the cars for $750 each, excluding the production car pieces. In the end, except for the bodies, frames and minor modifications to the engines, these indy studebakers were standard cars and the factory considered them to be 85 percent stock.
Interestingly, and most important to researchers, the team cars were painted different colors. Pete kreis, a veteran of five previous indys, was allocated the dark blue no. 18. Cliff bergere, a hollywood stunt man when he was not racing, had a maroon and white car. Tony gulotta's car was grey and blue. The hunt special was green and white, and luther johnson's mount was gunmetal and silver. Bergere was quickest among the stud drivers at 111.5 mph during qualifying. Kreis, with riding mechanic aaron vance, qualified at 110 mph compared with the quickest qualifier, lou moore, at 117 mph.
The studebakers might well have dominated the placings and bergere could have won the race. According to et reynolds: “just before the race, the team manager became apprehensive that tire wear might be greater than previously anticipated and accordingly he borrowed some extra wheels and tires from another stable. What he was not aware of was that the taper on the outer ends of the hubs of the borrowed wheels was such that when the stud knock-off caps were tightened, the point of contact was on the spokes of the wheel, instead of against the hub. As a result, the studebakers began losing wheels shortly after leaving the pits following each tire change as the knock-off caps would work loose. Considerable time was lost by all five cars before the difficulty was diagnosed and corrected.”
nevertheless, after five hours of racing bergere (vern lake) brought his car home in third place, his race average of 102.6 mph only 1.5 mph slower than fred frame's winning out-and-out racing miller. Bergere's race time eclipsed that of all previous indianapolis winners. The hunt special was sixth.
The studebaker management was impressed with the efforts and decided to redesign the bodies to reduce wind resistance for the 1933 500. Perhaps the idea was prompted by the gilmore special, which in 1932 was the first fully streamlined car to run at the brickyard. Wooden models were used for wind-tunnel tests at the univ. Of michigan, the first time such a scientific approach had been used in the history of auto racing. To further improve speed, the engines were fitted with higher compression cylinder heads and different camshafts. The winfield carburetors were replaced with strombergs. The engines were moved eight inches forward, either to improve handling and/or to accommodate the new aerodynamic bodywork.
The work went on in secrecy. A memo from chief engineer, dg roos, dated feb. 3, 1933 to the engineer in charge of the studebaker racing program read: “please arrange to get a skeleton organization lined up so that, when the cars come back to south bend, work can move on in the back room as rapidly as possible as, under the present conditions of cash stringency, if it is too visible it may result in management changing their mind as to going into the race.”
the big streamlined 5.5 litre cars were an impressive sight and it was estimated that the streamlining yielded an extra 3.5 mph. The cars were allocated different numbers to those they had run in 1932 but they were painted in the same colors as previously.
Bergere was once again the quickest stud in qualifying, running at 115 mph and only 3 mph slower than the quickest (bill cummings) qualifier.
During the race the streamlining worked beautifully. Too well, in fact, for the designers had overlooked the comfort of the crews in the cockpits. There was no airflow to the cockpits and since race day was particularly hat, the cockpits became veritable infernos. The cars were soon in the pits where axes were used to chop slits in the bodywork to provide some ventilation for the hard-pressed crews.
at the end of the race, all five factory cars were still running and studebaker-engined cars filled seven of the first 12 places.
the elation was short-lived. The sword of damocles had been hanging over the racing program and, sadly, as a result of financial woes, the factory never entered its racing cars again.
:d:d:d:d:d

ChaseKenyon
09-09-2009, 04:31 PM
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z4340/1932-Studebaker-President.aspx

John Meachen
09-09-2009, 04:39 PM
Fred's post reminds me of a sixties Skoda Octavia,I never saw a convertible so I might be mistaken.

John Meachen
09-09-2009, 05:22 PM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.php?imagenum=4&carnum=4175

If this works,and it is my first attempt at photo posting,a car should be visible.It wasn't and its getting a bit late to try again so this is the link http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.php?imagenum=3&carnum=4175http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.php?imagenum=4&carnum=4175

Paul Pless
09-09-2009, 05:27 PM
John, you were copying the web address url from the entire website where this photo appears. What you need to do is right click on the photo and select properties then copy and paste those into the IMG function

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/4175/AC-428-Convertible_4.jpg

Ross M
09-09-2009, 06:13 PM
John, you were copying the web address url from the entire website where this photo appears. What you need to do is right click on the photo and select properties then copy and paste those into the IMG function...

And you might consider saving to your hard drive, re-naming the file something vague, uploading the file to your photobucket/snapfish/flickr account, and capturing that address for use as Paul indicated above.

Some people are not above looking, thinking a bit, right clicking the image, selecting properties, reading the name, and posting "nice AC 428, John... is that a Frua design?" :D


http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Coupe2.jpg

John B
09-09-2009, 06:49 PM
Frua destroyed a few E types .. awfull job.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/jag/gXZjKe.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/jag/ZaekZv.jpg

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-09-2009, 10:41 PM
Here's a really good one. Two were built, but the tooling and molds for castings all is still available. A stock production block that was always gear drive camshaft not chain simplified the conversion. At 269 Cu In (4.40 litre) it put out 372 Bhp at 7100 rpm in 1954.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/1719493630_7719bed6d7.jpg


:D:D


I see the lineage, with the unit heads and all, but what is especially fascinating about this engine is that it appears to have a wider V angle than 90 degrees, excellent for a race car with the lower CG and drag profile, provided it packages. I can't recall if V-8s would primary balance better at 120 or 135 degrees.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
09-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Wow - a "W-12" engine, three banks of 4 cylinders each, the "Napier Lion" !!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/LionEngine.jpg

I may be wrong, but I believe that is a Broad Arrow 12 (3 banks), a W-12 (literally, "double-V" 12 in some languages, IIRC) is 4 banks.

Paul Pless
09-09-2009, 10:45 PM
I see the lineage, with the unit heads and all, but what is especially fascinating about this engine is that it appears to have a wider V angle than 90 degrees, excellent for a race car with the lower CG and drag profile, provided it packages. I can't recall if V-8s would primary balance better at 120 or 135 degrees.Except that narrow angle engines are more aero friendly (especially in open wheel classes), and since when have balance/harmonics been important to a race car engine?

Uncle Duke
09-10-2009, 08:41 AM
I may be wrong, but I believe that is a Broad Arrow 12 (3 banks), a W-12 (literally, "double-V" 12 in some languages, IIRC) is 4 banks.
That would certainly sense in an academic setting, but that engine is specifically described as:

The Napier Lion was a 12-cylinder W-block inline aircraft engine built by Napier & Son starting in 1917, and ending in the 1930s. A number of advanced features made it the most powerful engine of its day, and kept it in production long after contemporary designs had stopped production. It is particularly well known for its use on a number of racing designs, in aircraft, boats and cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Lion

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-10-2009, 08:51 AM
OK folks, what is it we are trying to identify now?

Popeye
09-10-2009, 09:02 AM
http://auta5p.eu/katalog/opel/opel_6_02b.jpg

Paul Pless
09-10-2009, 09:05 AM
OK folks, what is it we are trying to identify now?



http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/Coupe2.jpg

not a clue . . .

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Oh - the Black Coupe.....

That looks like a mid-sixties Frump.

Ross M
09-10-2009, 05:57 PM
When posted, I thought there were 9 or 10 produced. Turns out that figure included the much prettier spyder version, and only one or two of the Maserati 450S Costin/Zagato coupes were made.

Apologies for the one-off (or near one-off).

Ross

Michael s/v Sannyasin
09-11-2009, 10:59 AM
http://auta5p.eu/katalog/opel/opel_6_02b.jpg

The hood ornament looks like a Chevy from '35, but can't place the car.

Uncle Duke
09-11-2009, 11:03 AM
Opel

andrewe
09-11-2009, 11:28 AM
The Costin Zagato coupe would be Mike Costin of MarCOS and COSworth fame.

I'm not bright enough to strip out the pic as a question, but this might be of interest..
http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3200.asp?id=11841

Jack was the chairman of our company and used to keep his 250 GTO in the hanger when there 'wasn't enough room at the farm'.
Andrew

Oops. That was Frank Costain.

Uncle Duke
09-11-2009, 08:33 PM
OK. Lovely car. But... various bodies by various folks. Not that hard, in theory... no need to exactly specify it - just general model...:Dhttp://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d730b3127ccef8421f28640600000040O00AZNGTNy0Ztm QPbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Uncle Duke
09-12-2009, 04:58 PM
Fred - why the deleted post? Especially since you had the correct answer?
1954 Fiat 8V....

John B
09-14-2009, 03:24 AM
A slight wrinkle on the theme of the thread.
I show you guys the pictures and you tell me what it is , cos I've forgotten.

This is the Brother in laws little car tucked away in his shed.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3129_2.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 05:09 AM
Fred - why the deleted post? Especially since you had the correct answer?
1954 Fiat 8V....

Fred has a long, and entirely honourable, history of leaving no "hostages to fortune", if you want to trap a FredZ post for posterity:

1 Start a thread.
2 Tempt him to post.
3 Lock the thread.

The reasonable alternative is just to appreciate them and enjoy their transient nature - like swallows in summer.

andrewe
09-14-2009, 05:20 AM
John B,
Looks like a Berkley (sp)
Made in UK in 3 and 4 wheel versions with motor cycle engines up to 650cc.
A

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 05:28 AM
Looks like a good spot.

http://home.clara.net/peterfrost/berkeley.html

John B
09-14-2009, 05:45 AM
ah yes, that rings a bell.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3131_3.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3134_5.jpg

andrewe
09-14-2009, 07:23 AM
Thanks P.I.,
I didn't know about the engines, thought they used some better known names, like BSA or such.
A

There were some about when I started driving, and that nose rang a large bell because of its resemblance to an E-type.

Popeye
09-14-2009, 07:33 AM
http://medias.forum-auto.com/uploads/200408/nosaure_1093723341_file0007.jpg

andrewe
09-14-2009, 10:17 AM
Couple of NSUs behind it. Any relation?

Uncle Duke
09-14-2009, 11:46 AM
Fred Z:

Sure looks like an NSU Typ110. Yes, indeed.
And you can't delete this one!!! :D:D:D

Popeye
09-14-2009, 11:53 AM
1968 klankmotors greasespot mark v

andrewe
09-14-2009, 12:51 PM
Popeye seems to have a whole list of auto co.s and models I've never heard of....
A

That appears to be rear engined, front not unlike a SAAB 96. Is it Russian? (remembering the big V8 rear drive cars reserved for the party)

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 02:06 PM
How 'bout this one?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car10.jpg


Skoda, original Octavia

Heinlen has a hero in a "Rolls-Skoda" in "Fear No Evil" - and it damned nearly happened.... whenVW got both Skoda and Bently.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 02:33 PM
Nope, not Skoda.

Here's the pre-war model:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car10_older.jpg


Skoda Octavia looks like this:
http://www.madle.org/og06skodaocts60.jpg


Tatra T87


The later one is a 603?

Uncle Duke
09-14-2009, 02:35 PM
Tatra
Second posted is a T87 (I think) - no idea about the first.

Edited to add: Dang! P.I.S-N is just faster!

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 02:45 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/DougReid/Swiss1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/DougReid/Swiss2.jpg

Uncle Duke
09-14-2009, 03:05 PM
Ecomobile?
Cousin to the Quasar, I think.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Ecomobile?
Cousin to the Quasar, I think.

Distant cousin - the quasar was, I think, the only case of a three wheel engine donor to a two wheel project...

http://eco.peraves.ch/

Take it away folks.

Captain Blight
09-14-2009, 03:26 PM
http://static.classicaldrives.com/classicaldrives.com/imgname--rent_a_karmann_ghia_type_34_for_a_european_journey _coming_soon---50226711--ghia1500_coupe.JPEG

No fair peeking or hitting the 'quote' button.

John B
09-15-2009, 09:58 PM
Dunno, but its worth bumping.
Italian? Fiat?

John B
09-15-2009, 09:59 PM
How about this guy?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car11.jpg

Forgot to quote it ,so as to preserve it.

Captain Blight
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Looks like an AC Ace Coupe? Was there ever such a critter?

John B
09-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Those wheels just say vw to me. dunno why. Its an italian vw.:D

Captain Blight
09-15-2009, 10:32 PM
Borgword Revolta?

John B
09-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Alfa Kraftwagen?

Popeye
09-16-2009, 09:49 AM
i'm going out on a limb and guess alfa

guilia sprint speciale

Popeye
09-16-2009, 10:00 AM
you were careful to leave out a front view

Uncle Duke
09-16-2009, 11:01 AM
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car11.jpg

Auto Union / DKW Monza.
1956? 57?

Popeye
09-16-2009, 12:11 PM
that is an audi .. monza

Popeye
09-16-2009, 12:12 PM
http://en.wikivisual.com/images/b/bd/Kilowatt.jpg

Popeye
09-16-2009, 12:59 PM
340

Uncle Duke
09-16-2009, 01:45 PM
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/WoodenBoat/car12.jpg

Well - looks like an early Austin-Healey 100 (mid 50's), but I don't get the bump in the hood.
.. maybe not...side doesn't have the nifty 'swoop' indent...

Captain Blight
09-16-2009, 02:45 PM
Aston Martin DB4 Drophead coupe.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-16-2009, 03:56 PM
Jensen Healey?

Captain Blight
09-16-2009, 04:24 PM
Janice's Car?

Hell, I don't know. But tell me that grille doesn't holler Aston-Martin!

ChaseKenyon
09-16-2009, 04:26 PM
not a Jowett is it?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Well the pic. is post '73 the cars are probably early sixties Brit (RHD) but the plate isn't.

Looks heavy - AH3000 or so - Not Lotus, Not Aston, Bristol???

John Meachen
09-16-2009, 04:35 PM
Swallow Doretti?

John Meachen
09-16-2009, 04:43 PM
http://www.gordonkeeble.org.uk/assets/images/gk001.jpg

If this attempt works,and it might,here's another.

Captain Blight
09-16-2009, 05:08 PM
It's a powder-blue car with skinny bias-ply tires!


What do I win?

andrewe
09-17-2009, 01:44 AM
Gordon Keeble(sp)?
A

John B
09-17-2009, 02:27 AM
Slight diversion...( its a car thread)
I just saw my first California and Panamera.
The Panamera is friggin e normous. its a sled, its a boat, its a 66 impala, its moby dick.

right , back to our previously advertised programme.

andrewe
09-17-2009, 06:33 AM
One of my 'growing up' friends had one (his family had a big milk distribution chain) Asked him why he sold it, " It cost me about the price of a Mini every year to service". His next? TVR Trident. Ally body with Ford 4.7. Sorry, no pic.
Andrew

Popeye
09-17-2009, 06:59 AM
http://www.mc-gallery.ru/gallerys/mc-gallery.ru/foto/x_bb252fb86f.jpg

Popeye
09-17-2009, 08:39 AM
he he he

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 08:42 AM
http://www.mc-gallery.ru/gallerys/mc-gallery.ru/foto/x_bb252fb86f.jpg
Ha. AMC AMX-3
honest :D

Popeye
09-17-2009, 08:44 AM
%^$#!!X!

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 08:49 AM
%^$#!!X!
Here is the AMX-2:
http://www.lotusespritturbo.com/Amc_Amx-2.jpg
I was always a huge fan of the AMX...:D

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 08:53 AM
Should be easy:
http://www.rmauctions.com/images/cars/AZ09/AZ09_r242_01.jpg

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 09:00 AM
Allard J2-X 1953? Exactly - thought it would be easy!

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 09:26 AM
2009 BustedLink X-9? :D

Popeye
09-17-2009, 09:29 AM
youuuu don't know .. ?

ha

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 09:42 AM
youuuu don't know .. ?

ha
Nope. What I see is a big red box reading:


BUSTED!
The poster of this image has violated the law and will be prosecuted!

To see what all this is about, everyone else is invited to visit CLASSICS.COM
So maybe it's a 2007 model?:D

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Another easy one?
http://images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1000/1000673-1.jpg

Popeye
09-17-2009, 10:44 AM
ascari

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 10:48 AM
ascari
Unfortunately.... no.

Popeye
09-17-2009, 11:13 AM
rossion

ha

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 11:15 AM
rossion

ha
Unfortunately.... no. :D:D

Paul Pless
09-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Unfortunately.... no. :D:DYou have to admit to having a real appreciation for Popeye's guesses.:D

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 11:19 AM
You have to admit to having a real appreciation for Popeye's guesses
Oh - absolutely. I'm restraining myself admirably from expressing enthusiasm! Honest!

andrewe
09-17-2009, 11:24 AM
Noble.
A

Huh-Classics.com I was wondering where some of you found the pics.

Captain Blight
09-17-2009, 11:29 AM
Noble.
A

I'm pretty sure it's a Vector W2. I almost bought the body bucks for that car, about ten years ago.

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 11:29 AM
Noble.
A
DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!
Noble M12

Popeye was getting very close - the Ascari was designed by Lee Noble and the Rossion is based on the Noble M400. So close :D:D:D

Captain Blight
09-17-2009, 11:31 AM
O crumbs. Dad-rat it all.

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 11:33 AM
Huh-Classics.com I was wondering where some of you found the pics.
I use google images, myself.....

andrewe
09-17-2009, 12:00 PM
Uncle,
So I presume Google are not threatening to clean you out like Classic are to Popeye.
A

Uncle Duke
09-17-2009, 12:49 PM
So I presume Google are not threatening to clean you out like Classic are to Popeye.
yeah - Google already has links to the pictures, so if they can link, so can you.

Popeye
09-17-2009, 12:51 PM
you guys obviously haven't the faintest clue about how to post car pictures

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2172/884769.jpg