clovelly picarooner [Archive] - The WoodenBoat Forum

peter radclyffe

08-30-2009, 02:05 AM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img035.jpghttp://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img035.jpg
some time ago i built a new picarooner

Peerie Maa

08-30-2009, 05:35 AM

Good one.
Is she rigged? I cannot see any fittings for her mizzen.

peter radclyffe

08-30-2009, 05:51 AM

hi Peerie, shes not rigged, jim lawrence priced one but the guy didn't want it

peter radclyffe

11-15-2009, 03:33 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img325.jpg

peter radclyffe

11-15-2009, 03:34 PM

Mooring eyebolts,grown quarter knees, sculling notch, mizzen mast
housing, sternpost, raised transom, , stem band, apron, breasthook, fairlead for lying to nets, rubbing strake, grown frames

Thorne

11-15-2009, 05:46 PM

What's the notch / slot next to the stem for -- net lines?

ShagRock

11-15-2009, 06:46 PM

Peter..that's one beautiful traditional boat! Real nice work on the stem head.

I was looking at pictures of Clovelly c 1920s with picarooners in the harbor. Most have a short seat at the transom that curves round the corners and runs up the sides to the mid thwart or further..very aesthetic looking. Were these called side boards and do these function for hiking under sail? And are the similar looking small boats of Polperro also picarooners?

gavinpascoe

11-15-2009, 08:59 PM

I pottered around the Carrick Roads, St Mawes, St Just and up the river for a few days camping in one of those last year. It was perfect for the job.

peter radclyffe

11-15-2009, 11:03 PM

Thorne that fairlead is for drifting to the net rope, Shag we call those side thwarts, i dont know about polperro
what is unusual about this is that most english beach boats were clinker, it has been suggested that a spanish shipwreck, possibly the armada, when the ships were blown west accounted for the carvel beach boat build,
its a strange thing, but sometimes ive seen a boat & thought
i wonder if i'll rebuild that
so it was when i visited clovelly, i saw this boat stuffed above the shore, the shape was compelling, i had gone to north devon to build a trawler, when the trawlers were finished the yard was sold, i believe they were the last big trad wooden fishing boats built in england, but i dont know,you may know of this yard as they built the golden hind
the yard boss alan hinks suggested to the picarooner owner i restore it
after looking at it, i told him it was not worth it , being too far gone, i had to believe that may be the last i heard of it, difficult , as i wanted to work on it
however the guy said o k ,build a new one

peter radclyffe

11-15-2009, 11:42 PM

Gavin yes, its a good size for camping not too big
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img333.jpg

peter radclyffe

11-15-2009, 11:48 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img338.jpg

Larks

11-16-2009, 02:54 AM

Lovely Peter, and I also love the photo of "Crazed Kate's house"

jonboy

11-16-2009, 11:18 AM

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 03:39 PM

i dont know the boat Jonboy
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img347.jpg,

got the job in devon, built it in the new forest & launched her on the hamble

Peerie Maa

11-17-2009, 05:12 PM

Nice one... but a non sequiteur here and not wanting to hijack the thread, but.... a few weeks ago someone posted a question about the origins of a boat name from a Masefield story...I have been talking to my niece Dr Martin (really!) a lecturer in premodern English and wondered a, if they found the answer and b, can someone remind me the name in question as I can't find the original post and Docmartin might point us in the right direction...

Used the advanced search function for Masefield and found this:
"In one of John Masefield’s short stories (first published in 1905) there are references to a boat called a “perry-ack”, as follows:"

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:12 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img336.jpg

over the years ive sent how many articles to magazines, none has been published, so i gave up sending them

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:21 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img337.jpg

at various times ive wanted to set up in business with other guys, but i never have, usually i work in yards or on my own, its not good or bad, just the way it is, some of the guys ive known have set up together, sucessfully , a good thing

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:32 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img349.jpg

in our spare time at hinks the boss got us some private jobs, seb & i re -larch timbered a bideford beach boat for a boring woman who couldnt stop telling us about how private her private , private beach was, yeah alright love, just shut up & let us work cant you, drone, drone
seb from hong kong had enough of shipwrighting & wanted to study design in torquay
we later worked together at s,y.s southampton

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:50 PM

alan hinks was very helpful to me, he gave me his whitefish authority scantling rule book , now s f i a , which he'd used to build fishing boats for 40 years,
at the time of getting the new builds he had been going to repair an elm clinker 25ft fishing boat in barnstaple, he gave the job to me when he shut the yard down, the boat owner was bitter with hinks that he'd built the trawlers & not repaired his boat
reading tween the lines, when i ordered the elm for his repair i designed a 10 ft dinghy to teach myself how to loft, hinks told me to use his loft floor if i wanted to learn
the loftsman, a 45 year old virgin ( boy was he bitter ) wouldnt teach me anything
no matter , i taught myself lofting & built the 10ft carvel elm on sawn oak & bent elm frame, copper fastened dinghy in the shed at my digs, in pieces
i then moved it all outside & assembled it , a mate of mine had a big chandlers on the south coast , belsize boatyard, where he gave me the massive old admiralty rivets for the keel
i called it the rankin miss P, a black london D J on the bbc world service, reggae kept me sane in devon
imagine my surprise this year at finding that bob marleys father was from ilfracombe, just up the road

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:54 PM

the guy went back on his word wanting his boat repaired, it was just a guess

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:55 PM

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img350.jpg

peter radclyffe

11-17-2009, 10:56 PM

i built it in 7 weeks

Larks

11-20-2009, 04:45 AM

Not wanting to hijack your thread Peter, but I was fascinated by the photo of Clovelly, particularly that of Crazed Kates cottage, (which I had a bit of fun with - my wife Kate being a Psychologist), so here are a few more photos for anyone else who may be interested:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/Clovelly3.jpg

and these days:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/clovelly2.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/Clovelly.jpg

peter radclyffe

11-20-2009, 10:52 AM

Larks

11-20-2009, 05:01 PM

good stuff Greg, can you find any more, ive always wondered if the boat was in these old photos, like polperro they have kept the cobbles, they had donkeys for steep hills , now they use a landrover , you & Kate are 'nt going on holiday there are you http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

Funny you should say that, I'd like to. She wants to go back to Wales sometime next year and I'm keen to see Devon and Cornwall where she spent some time when she was younger, and I want more time in Ireland so there's a good chance of us going next year (work here pending:o).

Larks

11-20-2009, 05:08 PM

I fund those photos on the web, it seems to be a well photographed little town, there are some more great images of Clovelly on this site:

http://grumpystumpy.com/images/England/Devon/Clovelly

rbgarr

11-20-2009, 05:13 PM

Does the sculling oar have bands on its blade?

peter radclyffe

11-20-2009, 08:39 PM

i dont remember, it was just an old oar i had

peter radclyffe

11-20-2009, 08:44 PM

what a lovely site Greg , clotted cream teas, scones & old england