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BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:10 PM
You can buy your guns, ammo, and hunting related items sans sales tax September 4th thru the 6th.

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10956518



BATON ROUGE, LA (KPLC) - "Louisiana Second Amendment Weekend Sales Tax Holiday" has been announced by the Louisiana Department of Revenue (LDR). The sales tax holiday will take place the weekend before Labor Day, starting on Friday, September 4, through Sunday, September 6.

The tax holiday is part of Act 453 of the Regular Session of the 2009 Louisiana Legislature. Act 453 provides a three-day exemption from state and local sales and use taxes on consumer purchases of firearms, ammunition, and hunting supplies. This is an annual sales tax holiday that occurs each year on the first consecutive Friday through Sunday in September.

According to the statute, during this sales tax holiday weekend, the sales and use tax levied by the state and its political subdivisions shall not apply to any consumer purchases of firearms, ammunition and hunting supplies. The Annual Louisiana Second Amendment Weekend Holiday Act became effective July 9, 2009.

The tax exemption applies to individuals purchasing firearms, ammunition, and hunting supplies. It is not available for business purchases. Consumer purchases do not include the purchase of animals for hunting.

LDR has published a rule that details which consumer purchases are eligible for state and local sales and use tax exemption during the holiday and when these purchases are to occur. The rule (LAC 61:I.4425) is available on the Louisiana Administrative Code: Emergency Rules page at www.revenue.louisiana.gov.

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:16 PM
It's all about money.

Guns and ammo are a business. They are promoted for profit.

They drum up fear. They preach about patriotism. They orate about history and culture.

But it's all about money.

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
Ya think?

Considering it's a Louisiana Department of Revenue program?

:D

switters
08-20-2009, 03:20 PM
The fact that this coincides with the traditional start of deer season will be totally lost on most.

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:22 PM
The fact that this coincides with the traditional start of deer season will be totally lost on most.

No! It's about fear, not hunting. ;)

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:25 PM
it is what the liars on the left say it is...anyone disputing that is a liar...oh yeah...stupid too

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Ya think?

Considering it's a Louisiana Department of Revenue program?

It would be more accurate to say that it's a sales promotion by the gun industry's political arm.

They wanted to boost sales with a big event, but they didn't want to cut into their own profits, so they got their politicians to host a sale for them.

In the end, you know their sales will go up. Their revenue will go up. Their profits will go up.

It's a business. Follow the money. It should be obvious.

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:28 PM
"It would be more accurate to say that it's a sales promotion by the gun industry's political arm."

can you provide some details?

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:30 PM
can you provide some details?

Yes.

See the link at the top of this page. They government has created a sales tax holiday that will increase profits for privately held companies.

It's actually pretty obvious.

If you don't believe me, read the link again.

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:32 PM
Yes.

See the link at the top of this page. They government has created a sales tax holiday that will increase profits for privately held companies.

It's actually pretty obvious.

If you don't believe me, read the link again.

now...can you reaconcile that with the poplitical arm thing? mention Obama's gimmies to the banking industry while you're at it

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:34 PM
now...can you reaconcile that with the poplitical arm thing?

Golly, you didn't know that the gun industry has a political group which gives money to politicians, funds campaigns and works to get specific politicians elected to office?

I kinda thought you would have heard about that.

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:35 PM
Golly, you didn't know that the gun industry has a political group which gives money to politicians, funds campaigns and works to get specific politicians elected to office?

I kinda though you would have heard about that.

no I don't

can you provide some details?

High C
08-20-2009, 03:36 PM
Hey, pretty cool! I'm not really in the market though...have plenty CB caps for my ongoing nutria extermination program. I wish they'd have a tax holiday for golf cart batteries! ;)

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:37 PM
Hey, pretty cool! I'm not really in the market though...have plenty CB caps for my ongoing nutria extermination program. I wish they'd have a tax holiday for golf cart batteries! ;)

you shoot golf cart batteries?

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:37 PM
no I don't

can you provide some details?

I just did.

Did you think the gun industry was non-profit?

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Did you think the gun industry was non-profit?

now reconcile that with the "government arm" of the industry...please

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:40 PM
Yes.

See the link at the top of this page. They government has created a sales tax holiday that will increase profits for privately held companies.

It's actually pretty obvious.

If you don't believe me, read the link again.


Weak link at best.

It's more likely the State made the move to increase sales at local businesses to help stimulate the economy. Our little town suspends it's sales tax one weekend a year, right before Christmas.

But if you wanna see the boogie man in everything, have at it.

mmd
08-20-2009, 03:42 PM
Deer hunting in the heat of the summer? What will you crazy 'Mericans do next? Everybody knows that deer huntin' is s'posed to happen in the frosty mornings of late autumn when there's mist rising off'n the ponds and the leaves is all red an' yeller an' purdy...

How the hell are ya s'posed to stay comfy all togged out in camo or blaze orange an' totin' a heavy rifle an' binoculars an' GPS an' lunch an'... an'...

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:44 PM
Hey, pretty cool! I'm not really in the market though...have plenty CB caps for my ongoing nutria extermination program. I wish they'd have a tax holiday for golf cart batteries! ;)

The sale also applies to hunting accessories, and here's a souped up golf cart...

http://www.stealth4x4.com/

...but you'd have to check the list they provide to make sure the batteries are exempt.

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:47 PM
It's more likely the State made the move to increase sales at local businesses to help stimulate the economy.

Yup, that's pretty much how I see it too.

It's all about the money and the profit.

Just keep in mind, this particular sales tax holiday is for guns and ammo and related accessories only.

That's a little different than a Christmas tax holiday. This one is specific to a particular industry.

I wonder if the archery supply stores are upset that they aren't included. Maybe they should beef up their lobbying effort.

High C
08-20-2009, 03:48 PM
you shoot golf cart batteries?

LOL, nuhh uhh, I put them in my sailboat, 8 just last month. I like that rig Brian linked to. I hear it gets 231 miles to the gallon. ;)

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Brian...I don't have the patients to explain it to him...it's the Pitman-Robinson tax (still collected), it's colateral sales of taxable items and more profit for the GOVERNMENT

it's a loss-leader for the government...

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:53 PM
Okay here's the list. Archery stuff gets the exemption, maybe the golf cart batteries now that I know they're going in a boat...

Firearms...

a shotgun, rifle, pistol, revolver, or other
handgun, which may be legally sold or purchased in
Louisiana.

Hunting Supplies...

tangible personal property used for
and designed for hunting. Hunting supplies include:

a. archery items used for hunting such as bows,
crossbows, arrows, quivers and shafts;
b. off-road vehicles such as all terrain vehicles
designed and intended primarily for hunting. The exemption
does not apply to golf carts, go-carts, dirt bikes, mini-bikes,
motorcycles, tractors, motor vehicles which may be legally
driven on the streets and highways of Louisiana, or heavy
equipment such as cranes, forklifts, backhoes and
bulldozers.;
c. vessels such as airboats and pirogues designed
and intended for hunting;
d. accessories designed to be used for hunting;
e. animal feed that is manufactured and marketed as
being for consumption primarily by game which can be
legally hunted. This does not include food for animals kept
as pets;
f. apparel such as safety gear, camouflage clothing,
jackets, hats, gloves, mittens, face masks and thermal
underwear manufactured and marketed as being primarily
for wear or use while hunting;
g. hunting shoes or boots designed and used for
hunting.;
h. bags to carry game or hunting gear;
i. float tubes only if purchased to be used for
hunting;
j. binoculars only if purchased to be used for
hunting;
k. tools that are manufactured and marketed as
being primarily for use in hunting;
l. firearm and archery cases;
m. firearm and archery accessories;
n. range finders;
o. knives that are manufactured and marketed as
being primarily for use in hunting. This excludes the
purchase of knives by an individual to be used for
household, business or other recreational use;
p. decoys;
q. tree stands;
r. blinds;
s. chairs to be used for hunting. This excludes
purchases by an individual of chairs or other furniture for
household, business or other recreational use;
t. optics such as rifle scopes and impact resistant
glasses for shooting;
u. hearing protection gear and enhancements;
v. holsters;
w. belts that are manufactured and marketed as
being primarily for use in hunting;
y. slings; and
z. miscellaneous gear that is manufactured and
marketed as being primarily for use in hunting. This includes
other hunting-related gear or supplies not previously listed.
This excludes the purchase of toy guns and vessels or off
road vehicles utilized as children’s toys.

ljb5
08-20-2009, 03:54 PM
it's a loss-leader for the government...

You know that to be true, or you're just going to go ahead and say it as if it were true?

switters
08-20-2009, 03:55 PM
[quote=ljb5;2294068]Yup, that's pretty much how I see it too.

It's all about the money and the profit.

Just keep in mind, this particular sales tax holiday is for guns and ammo and related accessories only.

That's a little different than a Christmas tax holiday. This one is specific to a particular industry.

lets define hunting supplies first. I think you might be amazed at what will be covered. Oh look Brian posteed the list while I was typing.

High C
08-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Dang, that's got all kind of nifty loopholes!

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Brian...talk to this fool

BrianW
08-20-2009, 03:57 PM
s. chairs to be used for hunting.

Apparently I've been doing it all wrong.

:)

ljb5
08-20-2009, 04:01 PM
lets define hunting supplies first. I think you might be amazed at what will be covered. Oh look Brian posteed the list while I was typing.

Yup, I saw the list. That's pretty much what I thought.

Guns are an industry. A for-profit industry.

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

They market their products to increase sales.

Sometimes, they do this by drumming up fear of crime or illegal immigrants. Sometimes they issue ominous warnings that Obama will take away your guns unless you buy them right now. Sometimes they talk about the nobility of your fore-fathers and the original intent of the Militia.

They talk about a lot of stuff, but in the end, they're just trying to make a buck by selling a product.

ucb4ume
08-20-2009, 04:02 PM
It's real simple. Hunting season will be starting soon. The Department of Wildlife and Fisheries generates revenue from the sale of hunting licenses. If they make it cheaper to buy guns and ammo, then more people will go hunting and more people will purchase hunting licenses. That means more revenue for LaDWF. It's that simple. It's good for the economy. It's good for the government. It's good for the people. It's not so good for the socialists, so stay away.

Kids who hunt and fish, don't deal and steal.

BrianW
08-20-2009, 04:04 PM
Brian...talk to this fool

Anyone interested knows the Pittman Robertson Act, which is a Federal 11% tax on hunting equipment has been a great success.

Hunters have funded conservation for all since 1937.

High C
08-20-2009, 04:04 PM
Brian...talk to this fool

Oh just ignore him. He's a mosquito.

seanz
08-20-2009, 04:05 PM
r. blinds;


Very nice..........
:)


I notice that beer isn't listed.
:D

High C
08-20-2009, 04:10 PM
Very nice..........
:)


I notice that beer isn't listed.
:D

A special session will be called immediately.

BrianW
08-20-2009, 04:10 PM
Yup, I saw the list. That's pretty much what I thought.

Guns are an industry. A for-profit industry.

The list is not exclusively firearms.

In fact looking at the items on the list, the firearm is not the most expensive thing I use when hunting.

switters
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
I have a purple pirogue I might sell. The color makes animals think you are a liberal and they walk/fly/swim right up to you.:D

no taxes, special price, I think the kid might trade it for a new camero.:)

High C
08-20-2009, 04:20 PM
I have a purple pirogue...

I ain't gettin' in no purple pirogue, no.

seanz
08-20-2009, 04:20 PM
A special session will be called immediately.

Been a while since I've had a session......

Bob Adams
08-20-2009, 04:22 PM
Oh just ignore him. He's a mosquito.


Gee, Mr Competence was wrong....archery is included.

switters
08-20-2009, 04:36 PM
Deer hunting in the heat of the summer? What will you crazy 'Mericans do next? Everybody knows that deer huntin' is s'posed to happen in the frosty mornings of late autumn when there's mist rising off'n the ponds and the leaves is all red an' yeller an' purdy...

How the hell are ya s'posed to stay comfy all togged out in camo or blaze orange an' totin' a heavy rifle an' binoculars an' GPS an' lunch an'... an'...

http://www.cruzincooler.com/

now in camo:D

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Gee, Mr Competance was wrong....archery is included.

competence natters

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 05:09 PM
http://www.cruzincooler.com/

now in camo:D

do they have a half-track model?

ljb5
08-20-2009, 05:35 PM
Gee, Mr Competance was wrong....archery is included.

A minor mistake. It happens.

So what? Still doesn't change the obvious fact that the gun industry is a for-profit business and their main business is selling guns for money.

All that talk about political issues and militia rights and original intent of the second amendment and fear of illegal immigrants and home invasion etc, is just marketing.

Bob Adams
08-20-2009, 05:52 PM
No, you never mispeak. If you owned a boat you could do maintenance without hauling, you'd simply walk on water. Right now, the firearms industry needs no marketing, some weapons and many types ammunition are in short supply due to the brisk market that now exists.

paladin
08-20-2009, 07:37 PM
I thought Pirogues were made with potatos...never heard of purple ones....

High C
08-20-2009, 08:11 PM
I thought Pirogues were made with potatos...never heard of purple ones....

It's a petite little boat, not safe for one Cajun, much less two. I have one hanging from my living room ceiling. Ya never know. ;)

http://www.pawpawspirogues.com/images/pic01.jpg

Captain Blight
08-20-2009, 08:22 PM
A minor mistake. It happens.

So what? Still doesn't change the obvious fact that the gun industry is a for-profit business and their main business is selling guns for money.

All that talk about political issues and militia rights and original intent of the second amendment and fear of illegal immigrants and home invasion etc, is just marketing.Links to gun industry, please. NRA and NRA-ILA do not count, as NRA is not a part of the gun industry (it's a hobbyist's guild; a Scheutzenbund) and NRA-ILA is concerned with Constitutionality, not protection of profits for the firearms industry. Oh, I'm sure Smith&Wesson and Ruger and Remington and USRAC contribute to the PAC, but it's chartered as the Political Action wing of the NRA.

Most shooting sportsmen I know, myself included, would be pleased as punch with the firearms industry reducing profits to itself. Damn things are getting really expensive these days, makes me wish I'd bought that pre-war M70 back in '99 when the market on them was getting soft.

Captain Blight
08-20-2009, 08:27 PM
I thought Pirogues were made with potatos...never heard of purple ones....

Ha ha: Charade you are, my friend!

http://therawfeed.com/pix/chinese_purple_mutant_space_potatoes.jpg

ljb5
08-20-2009, 08:36 PM
Right now, the firearms industry needs no marketing.

You're naiveté is so cute!

The hallmark of effective marketing is that you don't realize they're selling you something.

ljb5
08-20-2009, 08:39 PM
Links to gun industry, please. NRA and NRA-ILA do not count, as NRA is not a part of the gun industry (it's a hobbyist's guild; a Scheutzenbund) and NRA-ILA is concerned with Constitutionality, not protection of profits for the firearms industry. Oh, I'm sure Smith&Wesson and Ruger and Remington and USRAC contribute to the PAC, but it's chartered as the Political Action wing of the NRA.

You just asked and answered your own question. :)

Captain Blight
08-20-2009, 08:41 PM
It wasn't a question. It was a request.

ljb5
08-20-2009, 08:55 PM
It wasn't a question. It was a request.

Here's some old data. I bet you a nickel that donations haven't gone down in the last 15 years.

Firearms Industry Member Contributions to The NRA Foundation, 1994 and 1995 (http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/eddiecht.htm)

Phillip Allen
08-20-2009, 11:30 PM
A minor mistake. It happens.

So what? Still doesn't change the obvious fact that the gun industry is a for-profit business and their main business is selling guns for money.

All that talk about political issues and militia rights and original intent of the second amendment and fear of illegal immigrants and home invasion etc, is just marketing.

major mistake...competence matters